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Name Change request

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The result of the proposal was no consensus. JPG-GR (talk) 03:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gibraltar is used as both a noun and an adjective, for instance:

The Gibraltar Regulatory Authority http://www.gra.gi
The Gibraltar Financial Services Commission http://www.fsc.gi

The Gibraltar telephone directory (2007) has three pages of double columns of entities starting at The Gibraltar Amateur Drama Association and ending with The Gibraltar Yacht registry there are NO entries for anything prefixed with Gibraltarian whatsoever.

The term Gibraltarian has a specific meaning relating to the people and not the institutions of Gibraltar.

General elections are described locally and in published media as such

see: Article about elections in a local daily newspaper

Where the phrase used is 'Gibraltar general election'. Similarly the referendum is described officially as a Gibraltar Referendum not a Gibraltarian one.

User:Number 57 has changed these on the basis that: Gibraltarian is a legitimate adjective to refer to things related to Gibraltar, not just the people - see [1].

This is an online dictionary compiled by its users, and it cites 'The Gibraltarian Customs' as an example - there is no such entity. His error has been pointed out to him on his discussion page by three Gibraltarian editors who all concur.

user:Chris.B 13 January 2008 (UTC)
user:Gibnews 6 April 2008 (UTC)
user:Gibmetal77 6 April 2008 (UTC)

The use of the word Gibraltarian is missleading as it would imply that participation in the elections was restricted to Gibraltarians, that is not the case and any registered British Citizen can vote.

Because the other entry exists, I cannot simply move the page and request that someone who can does so promptly.

--Gibnews (talk) 09:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Despite claims to the contrary, Gibraltarian is widely used as a demonym to describe things related to Gibraltar, and is defined as such by several dictionaries (e.g. Babylon). A quick google search of the term clearly shows that its use it not limited to the people [2] - five of the first ten hits refer to things other than the population. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 18:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Just because the term Gibraltarian is used elsewhere as an adjective does not mean it is used correctly and is merely a common misconception. --Gibmetal 77 ^talk 20:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Gibraltarian is NEVER used in that context in Gibraltar. The correct term, as used by the Government of Gibraltar on their official notices is Gibraltar as shown in the examples of the websites of official bodies. Using Google you can get 2,870 hits for gibraltan which is never used here at all. --Gibnews (talk) 21:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was consensus for move.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Reason:

"Gibraltar referendum" in Google News, all dates: 40 matches
"Gibraltarian referendum" in Google News, all dates: 1 match
"Gibraltar referendum" in Google Books: 47 matches
"Gibraltarian referendum" in Google Books: 0 matches

Jayen 466 12:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per Jayen's evidence. We do not create terms purely for our own consistancy. Narson (talk) 14:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick^t 14:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Per Jayen's evidence. I think that this should also be applied to the three general elections in Gibraltar that we have articles for (where the redirects for the "Gibraltar" versions were edited), for reasons of consistency. Pfainuk talk 15:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed on the three elections, the situation in Google News and Google Books is much the same as here (with fewer references overall, but Gibraltar rather than Gibraltarian being the very clear preference). Perhaps the admin performing this move could be so kind as to perform the other moves for the three election articles as well. Jayen 466 21:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - for all the reasons given before, the current naming is nonsense. --Gibnews (talk) 20:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Per above. The term "Gibraltar" is at times (as is the case here) used as the adjective. --Gibmetal 77 ^talk 21:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. RedCoat10 (talk) 13:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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