Talk:Glynde and Beddingham

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This seems to be mainly about Beddingham and so shouldnt it be moved since glynde has its own aricle? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freakmighty (talk • contribs) 19:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements provides guidance. In a nutshell, it recommends that the Civil Parish is used as the lowest level for a settlement. In this case, Glynde and Beddingham. This makes it a catch-all that covers any significant place that is not part of a village, Asham Quarry for example.

In addition, a settlement within that parish may have its own article if there is enough information specifically relating to that hamlet/village. For example, Glynde is a reasonable sized article, whereas Beddingham would just be a stub if it was to be extracted at the moment. MortimerCat (talk) 20:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To complicate matters, there is no evidence that Glynde and Beddingham is a civil parish. Lewes District Council suggests at Lewes District Council : Number of Listed Buildings in Each Parish that the two parishes are separate, which agrees with the Electoral Commission, Ordnance Survey and Office of National Statistics. Unless the two parishes have recently been merged, it appears that they simply share a joint or grouped parish council. Can anyone local clarify this? Skinsmoke (talk) 00:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glynde and Beddingham is the official civil parish. They were merged on 21 February 1972 [1]. The official parish council website[2] refers to Glynde & Beddingham. It does get confusing though, the civil parish is split into two wards "Parish of Glynde" and "Parish of Beddingham". Sometimes they are treated as separate parishes, sometimes as the combined parish. For example, each of the two parish wards has their own AGM, followed by the official combined annual Council meeting [3] ++ MortimerCat (talk) 01:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From your description it will be the parish council that has been merged rather than the parishes. This is not an unusual arrangement and is referred to variously as a joint parish council, grouped parish council, common parish council or combined parish council. In some cases as many as a dozen parishes can form a single parish council. However, the parishes retain their own individual existence, which is why there has to be separate parish AGMs. This explains why Ordnance Survey, the Electoral Commission and Office for National Statistics treat the parishes as separate. On occasions, such an arrangement eventually leads to a formal merger of the parishes. In others, the joint parish council may be disbanded and the parishes continue with either their own individual parish councils, or with parish meetings (or a combination of the two). In the majority of cases, however, the joint parish council continues in existence alongside the individual parishes for decades.

It's a bit of legal nonsense that only we English could come up with, but it does mean that Glynde and Beddingham is not the official civil parish.

A very brief explanation of the arrangement appears at Civil parish#Parish administration

Skinsmoke (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the parishes had been merged, the articles shouldn't, see WP:NTEMP and WP:GEOLAND. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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