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Violation of WP:NPOV in titles of controversies sub-sections[edit]

I feel that the naming of sections in the controversy sections violate WP:POVNAMING. User:Lordtobi has reverted this for not for indirect depiction of cases. but if you read the WP:POVNAMING it states In some cases, the choice of name used for a topic can give an appearance of bias and the section names are definitely names of topics. I feel that the section titles should be similar to the ones expressed in this reversion [1], which adhere strongly to NPOV. Any other views on this? --Jules (Mrjulesd) 18:24, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

I would like to say that I appreciate you relying on the talk page instead of persuing an edit war. I am quite aware of WP:NPOV/WP:POVNAMING, but I feeling like you are mistinterpreting the guideline, in regards to the context of the (sub)header naming. As you correctly stated, the guideline expresses the exclusion/omission of points of view (POVs) from article text (or in this case header names), however, I feel like, especially with a controversy sup-section, that the depiction of what the controversy sourrounds: Full-frontal nudity, drunk driving, troture, etc. are the [most striking] controversial elements, and are discussed within the plaintext of every of those subsections. Using the header to give a birds-eye view on what was controversial to a game without having them to read the section without knowing what it is about. Also in regards of misinterpretation, e.g. the torture element in GTA V is a real thing, and not an opinion, except if you consider it differently, though that would again by your opinion going against the mainstream (common reliable secondary sources) "opinion", or rather depiction and evaluation of the entity. On a side-note, I also felt like the appendix of "controvery" to every sub-section of the "controversies" section is quite doubling it all, as if you were expecting the reader to not expect that the controversy section includes controversy of the game depicted. Therefore, if it is actually decided on omitting the expression of the controversial topic(s) of the game in question, the sub-section headers should have no appendix after the game title itself. Thanks! Lordtobi () 19:56, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I respectfully disagree. For example Grand Theft Auto V: torture and sexism as a subheading makes it appear that GTAV is primarily concerned with these two topics, while the torture aspects are minimal to the game, and the sexism is debatable; it would therefore be a matter of WP:UNDUEWEIGHT. Grand Theft Auto V: torture and sexism would be highly inappropriate for an article title, and section titles should also try to adhere to a NPOV aspect, and not try to infer that it is Wikipedia's opinion that these are especially prominent in the game in question. The material in the sections are appropriate as they are composed of sourced opinions; not statements of facts, which are inferred by the current POV section titles. Section titles should be neutral, as the sections should themselves be read by the reader to form a balanced opinion on the matter. Far better to have Grand Theft Auto V controversy to be neutral on the merits, and also match the article title Controversies surrounding Grand Theft Auto V which makes no mentions of "torture and sexism" in the article title. Conclusion section titles should mirror article titles in adherence to WP:POVNAMING. They currently do no do so, and are thus against policy. WP:POVNAMING makes no distinction between article and section naming. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 21:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

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Merge Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy to Grand Theft Auto[edit]

I think the article should be merged to Grand Theft Auto. I don't see the need to have a separate page for this compilation. The references currently consists of only database entries and a store page. --Mika1h (talk) 16:54, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

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