Talk:Great grain robbery

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More than half of this article is an understated explanation why it is poorly titled:

This event was referred to in US media of the day as "The Russian Wheat Deal" or "The Soviet Wheat Deal," and may be better recognized under one of these two names by individuals who remember listening to the US news coverage.[3][4][5]

--P64 (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Among agricultural economists and Sovietologists the event is known today as the Great Grain Robbery (hence the titles of the books by Hamilton and Trager). "Russian/Soviet Wheat Deal" didn't really capture the event since there were so many deals between 1972 and 1993; that term is a bit ambiguous at this point (though in the early 1970s of course it was a real novelty, before the USSR became the world's largest importer of grains).

We no longer refer to "The Great War," as the contemporary media called the event we now know as "World War One." Amustard (talk) 06:37, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

This is pretty ridiculous, using a very biased title. I would hope most editors would avoid using such POV terminology unless it were more widely supported. Shall we simply move the article forthwith, or do we need more discussion first? --Dhartung | Talk 21:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I would like to see this article moved. Seeing this event with an exceedingly neutral name rewritten into a Cold War slogan seems wrong. The Wheat Deal was given an exceedingly NPOV name at the time, precisely in order to convince the public to accept something that was totally against the Cold War way of thinking. Changing the name does a disservice to our readers old enough to remember the early seventies. It just isn't so that things that happened before the Internet did not exist. Given the tensions of the Cold War, it is quite surprising that this event happened at all. Most of us aren't scholars, we're members of the general public. If Sovietologists and agricultural specialists have since concluded it was a bad deal, then by all means let us write an extensive section called "The Great Grain Robbery", and give middle-aged people seeking to refresh their memories more information as to what has come out during the intervening years regarding the negative aspects. Djembayz (talk) 00:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually, this is not a Cold War slogan; the so-called "robbery" of U.S. taxpayers was allegedly perpetrated by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, not the Soviets. 182.69.9.165 (talk) 10:56, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I must respectfully disagree that the article should be moved. "Great Grain Robbery" is the term of art in today's agricultural economic literature referring to this event. Amustard (talk) 05:06, 6 December 2014 (UTC)