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Distinction between medicine and alternative medicine[edit]

Alexbrn, thanks for your recent contributions/rewrite. But could you also please make it clear that there is a distinction between the medical concept of (w)holistic health and the "alternative" concept? It's been a while since I've read that Swedish article, but I think the medical concept is basically that the nurses and physicians should think more about how the patient and the family feel. In contrast, the hospital environment can be experienced as cold and uncaring, even if the best possible care is provided. Heptor _talk 08:43, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Vandalism[edit]

This Page is not even relevant to Holistic health in the form it is now. Most of the links and relevant information has been deleted. And most of the links and citations lead to a site that is against Alternative medicine in any form. I find it sad that groups with an agenda are intentionally destroying articles that go against their point of view. If you are Critical of an Article use a critics section, and explain your point of view. Knowledge should not be intentionally erased just because it goes against someones Morals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkMystik1 (talk • contribs) 06:40, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article is pretty sparse but per WP:FRINGE, we are obliged to detail the mainstream scientific view. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 07:02, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the current scientific consensus appears to be that the healing techinques based on the holistic world view are no better than placebo. The article reflects this consensus, as it has to per WP policy. Heptor _talk 14:30, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs to be reverted back[edit]

Article needs to be reverted back to original article before major changes was done Please refer to Policy WP:VANDTYPES Please read section on gaming the system. This is an Encyclopedia not an outlet to push an agenda. I am also bringing in an admin as soon as I can figure out how to do that since this is clearly a case of trying to game the system to push an agenda.DarkMystik1 (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DarkMystik1, there is no attempt to "game the system". Instead, there is an effort to make sure the content meets our WP:FRINGE guideline. We're not going to use a single source to say "the holistic view is widely accepted in medicine" and then coatrack on a list of alternative medical techniques, implying they have acceptance. See WP:SYNTH and WP:MEDRS for other applicable guidelines. Finally, "bringing in an admin" will not help you as they have no special powers over dictating the content of articles. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NeilN The WP:FRINGE is being used to erase relevant information to Holistic health It is not just an Alternative medicine, It is also used in the medical community. I do see how some of the links to other Alternative Healing practices gives the indication that it is only Alternative Medicine. It looks better then it did, but still feel that this policy is being used in the wrong way whether it is in good faith or not. It is disappointing to see that Wikipedia is being used in this fashion, and to see that organizations are pushing an agenda and using policy to do so. It is even more sad to see that Wikipedia allows this practice to continue. If I had enough knowledge on this topic I would edit more but really do not see the point since anything I edit will be deleted right away.DarkMystik1 (talk) 06:29, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DarkMystik1, if you want to expand the article that'd be great but as it's a medically-related topic, WP:MEDRS-compliant sources need to be used for any medical claims. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please have in mind that the concept of "holistic health" in medicine is different from the similarly named concept in alternative health care. Heptor _talk 12:51, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Holistic Health" redirects to Holism[edit]

Holistic health redirects to Alternative medicine but Holistic Health to Holism. --nBarto (talk) 21:28, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(The first "health" begins with a lowercase H, the second with uppercase.) --nBarto (talk) 15:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good point - fixed GirthSummit _(blether) 12:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Would be better as a disambiguation page[edit]

At the moment, this page title redirects to alternative medicine. "Holistic" has another meaning in medicine, from before it was appropriated as a euphemism/rebranding for alternative medicine. It can also refer to the medical philosophy of "caring for the whole patient, not just the illness", which does not imply a rejection of science.

Examples:

"The hospice was founded on the principles of combining teaching and clinical research, expert pain and symptom relief with holistic care to meet the physical, social, psychological and spiritual needs of its patients..."
"In 1964, Lasagna wrote a modernized version of the Hippocratic Oath, which emphasized a holistic and compassionate approach to medicine."

So I'm proposing making this a disambiguation page that displays a link to alternative medicine as well as the older definition. Anywikiuser (talk) 12:43, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]