Talk:Hozameen Range

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Hozomeen Range, Washington[edit]

This isn't in USGS/GNIS but I'm including the Washington cat and stubs as the BCGNIS ref says it extends south into Washington state; maybe there are other references that use the term, as always it seems illogical to end a landform at a line of latitude.....I've redirect Hozomeen Range here, as Hozomeen is the US spelling variant cf Hozomeen Mountain.Skookum1 (talk) 20:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Cascade Mtns vs North Cascades[edit]

The reason I chose "Cascade Mountains" as the terminology there is because, so far, I only have a Canadian citation for the range, there is none in USGS under either spelling; I don't know what the US-side boundary of the range is, guess I could look at terrain and make a guess; but the bulk of the range would appear to be in Canada at this point, and the one citation we have for it is from BCGNIS, which uses "Cascade Mountains"....the Skagit Range, on the other hand, and the Okanagan Range, both have US cognates; I'm not sure it's on USGS maps but on some maps, maybe th Nat'l Geog digital series we were using at Bivouac. Anyway all there is in the US is the namesake Hozomeen Mountain...maybe Fairley's or The Mountaineers guidebook give a description of the US portion of the Hozameen Range, it's out there somewhere...interesting that nobody gave a subrange name to the Fraser Canyon strike of the Cascades up to Lytton; it's distinct country in its own right from the Hozameen, Skagit, or Okanagan Ranges, or the gnarly bits south and east from Shuksan....Skookum1 (talk) 03:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

A small portion (28%) of the Hozameen Range lies in Washington and 77% lies in British Columbia according to peakbagger.[1] Black Tusk (talk) 03:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
That may be derived from bivouac; we were all interlinked in our data-referencing....maybe "North Cascades and Canadian Cascades" as a compromise; I usually think of hte latter term as referring to the Canadian side of the Skagit Range, but that's only my perception over the years, maybe to do with which mountains were in the Canadian Cascades and which in the American ("visual sorting", Shuksan vs. Slesse etc); up the Canyon or into Manning was always just "the Cascades"Skookum1 (talk) 13:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Googling it, with Canadian spelling, I came across this extended footnote in Beckey's Cascade Alpine Guide, which is a pretty thorough explanation of the meanings of various terms; it's a pity the next few pages are excluded from the preview, it seems to go on a bit. A southern limit at Gibson Pass is mentioned, but it's unclear if that's in reference to the Hozameen Range. He fields other terms like the Hope Mountains and Chilikweyeuk chain and such, and other boundaries; so many variables in the anicillary literature which is why I've tried to stick to the official terms; but it did occur to me that a subpage of Cascade Range about the origin of the toponym, as was done for Oregon (toponym), might be a worthwhile undertaking. Cascades (toponym) maybe. Bit of a history in and of itself.Skookum1 (talk) 13:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, I couldn't find it on bivouac. Black Tusk (talk) 01:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Really?? I suppose Robin must have decided it was less important than whatever other unofficial name he decided the area should be called....the only reliable information in bivouac now would seem to be the prmoionece plotting and the latlongs/elevations....unelss he's taken those away from the TRIM standard I was using....Skookum1 (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Really. One false claim I noticed immediately on bivouac was: The Edziza massif is the largest volcano in Canada. No it is not. The Level Mountain Range is larger and so is the Blake River Megacaldera Complex in Ontario/Quebec. Black Tusk (talk) 02:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)