Talk:Hugh de Lacy, Lord of Meath

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Baron Mulingar[edit]

I just want to make you aware of Baron Mulingar. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC) And, I'm not sure who this is. Just an FYI. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:45, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Removal of the 'Song'[edit]

The Song of Dermot and the Earl is not rightly included in the article (Wikipedia doesn't cite primary sources at length). If the Orpen translation is free of copyright, it could be posted at Wikisource. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The Song of Dermot and the Earl

(Translated from the Norman-French by Goddard Henry Orpen, lines 3129 to 3161) [1]>

Of Hugh de Lacy I shall tell you

How he enfeoffed his barons,

Knights, serjeants and retainers.

Castleknock, in the first place, he gave

To Hugh Tyrell, whom he loved so much;

And Castle Brack according to the writing,

To baron William le Petit,

Magherdernon likewise

And the land of Rathkenny,

The cantred of Ardnorcher then

To Meiller, who was of great worth,

Gave Hugh de Lacy -

To the good Meiler Fitz Henry;

To Gilbert de Nangle, moreover

He gave the whole of Morgallion;

To Jocelin he gave the Navan,

And the lands of Ardbrackan,

(The one was son the other father,

According to the statement of the mother)

To Richard de Tuite likewise

He gave rich fief;

Rathwire he gave moreover

To the baron Robert de Lacy.

To Richard de la Chapelle

He gave good and fine land,

To Geoffrey de Constantine Kilbixi

Near to Rathconarty;

And Skryne he then gave by charter;

To Adam de Feypo he gave it;

To Gilbert de Nugent,

And likewise to William de Musset,

He gave lands and honours,

In the presence of barons and vavasours.

Kilkea Castle?[edit]

Why was the picture of Kilkea Castle included in the article? It appears just below the picture of Trim Castle, so maybe it pertains to this section of the article?:

Lordship of Meath
De Lacy only escaped with difficulty; he seems to have left Dublin in charge of Earl Richard de Clare by the king's orders, and to have commenced securing Meath by the erection of castles. Among these was Trim Castle, which was put in charge of Hugh Tyrrel.[1]

I couldn't find any mention of Kilkea Castle in the Hugh de Lacy article in the Dictionary of National Biography (footnote [1]), nor could I find any mention of Hugh de Lacy in the Wikipedia article on Kilkea Castle.

Ninanta (talk) 21:36, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ Skryne and the Early Normans by Elizabeth Hickey ISBN 095003326X