Talk:Hulk (comics)

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)



– The character seems to be the clear WP:PTOPIC here. There seems to have been only one previous discussion on the matter 8 years ago, with very little input. The page has been viewed 283,876 times over the last 90 days. There are over 20 Wikipedia articles with "Hulk" in the title that are adaptations of the character, less than half a dozen that are not. If we look at the other items on the disambig page, over half of the items there are media adaptations of the character. The others are:

The only item on the page (excluding media adaptations of the character) with more views is Hulk Hogan, whose page has been viewed 722,446 times (which includes a huge spike on April 9th, a date which coincides with the death of a rival wrestler). Hogan also adopted the name due to the character, which is sourced on the page toward the bottom of this section. This Google nGram shows that both "The Hulk" and "Incredible Hulk" have consistently received more coverage in books than "Hulk Hogan". The Hulk Hogan page is already clearly disambiguated via his last name, and an additional hatnote could be added here if deemed necessary. Fandraltastic (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Oppose clearly the most encyclopedic topic and the one found in scholarly sources is the ship type. Per your own usage stats, the comics is not that much greater than the footballer, and it doesn't matter where his name derives from WP:NOTINHERITED. Hulk Hogan is frequently called "Hulk" as well. I don't see any primary topic based on usage either. Further, not just the character, but the various Hulk properties the character appears should also be checked, such as The Incredible Hulk, aka "the Hulk comic book". Is it the character or one of the properties that is more deserving of the hits that are coming here, since the disambiguatory term on this article is imprecise and not descriptive enough to determine this is a character article. -- 70.24.250.192 (talk) 04:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't believe WP:NOTINHERITED applies, as I am not suggesting that the character is notable due to an arbitrary relation to a notable subject. I was actually suggesting the opposite, that the term "Hulk" was used by the footballer and Hogan due to the notability of the character. And yes, the various adaptations, especially recent ones, have a lot of page hits, but I'd argue that they all spawn out of the character, making it the primary topic. In the same way the character pages for Batman, Superman and Spider-Man are the respective primaries. (And I know, WP:OTHERSTUFF. I was not suggesting we perform the move due to those situations, I am merely attempting to give relevant examples) -Fandraltastic (talk) 05:20, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose - pretty much verbatim as 70.24.250.192. Also a hulk is a hulk. There is no primary topic for this common word. Even among the Hulk franchise, not clear that Hulk (comics) is more notable than film or character. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
  • This article is actually about the character. I understand that that's unclear, as the disambiguation is very imprecise. -Fandraltastic (talk) 05:30, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Strong support - clear primary topic. But I would also support The Hulk as per WP:THE. Red Slash 03:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose: This is fannish myopia, and misconstrues WP:PRIMARY in several ways, as 70.24.250.192 and Fandraltastic explain, above (where they agree). The comics, films and other discrete topics relating to the character do not all "add up" into more support for the character being the main topic, but actually detract from that consideration – they're competing, not cumulative. The modern ship type is clearly the primary topic, and is what the character is metaphorically named after. I would also support The Hulk as main article name for the character.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  09:22, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. Looking at the disambiguation page, it is clear that the comics character is the primary topic. JIP | Talk 14:46, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose Pagehits be damned, this has other meanings. If you want to start getting picky, the ships are the only things called just "hulk" (except recent movies and such). The comic character is "the Hulk", and that's already a redirect. Peter Isotalo 23:14, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. I concur with Red Slash that "The Hulk" would be better. The character has 17 times as many page views and the two types of "hulk" ships combined. Not many readers would type in "hulk" expecting the footballer to come up. I assume readers who seek the footballer are typing in his name. Guelf (talk) 16:02, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Move to The Hulk. I'm not convinced there should be a primary topic for merely "Hulk". Both the comics and the ship type have roughly equal long-term significance. I do agree on the WP:THE and natural disambiguation alternative title of "The Hulk". Zzyzx11 (talk) 13:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Move to The Hulk. The ships are just as significant. Hit results will always be skewed towards the comic book character due to the huge use of the internet by geeky types! That doesn't make the big green chap the primary topic in the real world. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:10, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Move "Hulk (comics)" to The Hulk and "hulk (ship)" to hulk. Add {{tl:about|the fictional superhero|the ship|hulk|other uses|hulk (disambiguation)}} and {{tl:about|the ship|fictional superhero|The Hulk|other uses|hulk (disambiguation)}} wp:hatnotes (cf. {{distinguish}}) to each article repectively. The type of ship incapable of sailing by its own means has "greater enduring notability and educational value" per qualitative wp:primarytopic. walk victor falk talk 22:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment - We cannot move to it "The Hulk", which clearly violates WP:THE. Go to WP:THE#Other cases and you'll even see as a clear example there that it's not The Joker, but Joker (comics). Likewise we don't have The Spirit, we have Spirit (comics). We don't have The Flash, we have Flash (comics). The Hulk is no different. While we have The Shadow, we're not talking about the character himself but "a collection of serialized dramas, originally in 1930s pulp novels, and then in a wide variety of media." Neither is The Phantom about the character but rather "an American adventure comic strip created by Lee Falk." Whether we call it "Hulk" as it is now or "Hulk (comics)" as is proposed, adding "The" creates enormous consistency problems and will — as happened years ago in WikiProject Comics — lead to endless debates and RfCs over whether this or that person's favorite character should have "The". --Tenebrae (talk) 22:46, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
We can use "The" in the title if it is part of the name. Cf. The New York Times. Is "The Hulk" the common usage? Kablammo (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
It's not part of the name, any more so than the Joker, the Flash, the Spirit, the Wasp, the Scorpion, the Mirror Master, the Owl, the Grey Gargoyle, the Red Skull, etc., etc. The New York Times is a proper-noun formal title. Apples and oranges.--Tenebrae (talk) 21:21, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose moving Hulk (comics) to Hulk. We should not allow pop culture usages to usurp the primary uses of a term. See Talk:Corvette/Archive_2. Tenebrae's comments above list a number of terms used for comic book characters, and undoubtedly there are many other such terms used for games, television shows, films, and similar items of pop culture. But such terms have a primary meaning, which should be preferred in an encylopedia. Kablammo (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Incorrect description of the Hulk.[edit]

The line "Throughout his comic book appearances, the Hulk is portrayed as a large green humanoid that possesses near limitless superhuman strength and great invulnerability, attributes that grow more potent the angrier he becomes." is incorrect.

The Hulk has been portrayed as grey, not green, many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.64.0.252 (talk) 14:39, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2015[edit]

180.191.111.84 (talk) 09:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

id like to edit hulk because i read all the issue of the comics from the internet and comics

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 12:58, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Grey or gray?[edit]

The article uses both and we should probably pick one. I thought "gray" was the usual USian spelling, but "grey" is currently used more often in the article (9 to 6 when I checked). I don't have an issue handy; which spelling was used in the comics? 64.235.97.146 (talk) 15:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I have removed all instances of "gray". "Grey" is now consistent in the article. A Google search seems to lean towards "Grey Hulk" and not "Gray Hulk", and all instances of "gray" in the article were referring to the colour and not the character so in those instances it doesn't matter. —DangerousJXD (talk) 22:18, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

ID/id[edit]

Towards the end of the “Fictional character biography” section, there is a sentence that mentions Kluh “sneering that the Hulk they knew was nothing more than a ‘sad piece of “Doc Green’s” ID.’” I suspect that “ID” is a misreading of id, caused by comics’ customary use of all capitals.—Quick and Dirty User Account (talk) 09:58, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

He should have regenerative healing factor as one of his abilities.[edit]

This quote is taken from the official marvel page at http://marvel.com/characters/25/hulk :

The Hulk has shown a high resistance to physical damage nearly regardless of the cause, and has also shown resistance to extreme temperatures, mind control, nuclear explosions, poisons, and all diseases. In addition to the regeneration of limbs, vital organs, and damaged or destroyed areas of tissue at an amazing rate.

A little bit of googling will also show that he has healed many times in movies, and has also shown to fully regenerate his entire body back from being burnt almost to a skeleton:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/99449/4623150-hulk_regenerates_flesh_in_seconds.jpg

This is heavily backed up by http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/powersabilities.html which shows all of hulks abilities, it also shows that he has a similar ability to Darwin, which allows to him to breathe underwater, essentially growing gills by adapting to his environment, Reactive evolution, which could be added to his list of abilities, but for real, his regenerative healing factor needs to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.208.120 (talk) 23:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)