Talk:Hunkemöller

Some proposed changes

Relevant information to be found on the corporate website of Hunkemöller which could be a relevant addition to this Wikipedia page: https://www.hkmi.com/ Suggested changes:Bold text

Company history/company structure:

in 2003 the company made the step to start their first online webshop in the Netherlands. In 2009 the German webshop followed which is now the biggest market. Nowadays Hunkemöller has country specific webshops in: the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, the U.K., Luxemburg, Switzerland, Austria, France, Denmark, Sweden & in Spain.

Company History Hunkemöller

• rephrasing of:

"Since August the 31, the Dutch model Doutzen Kroes represents Hunkemöller as the new face of the brand.[2] Previously, the model and moderator Sylvie Meis was the face of the company."

--> There is no year mentioned with "August 31". Doutzen Kroes became the face of the brand in 2016.

"Hunkemöller runs an omni-channel operation, which contains own-operated stores, shop-in-shops, e-commerce and international franchise units. Hunkemöller began its franchise program in 1979. These days the lingerie company contains more than 800 stores, with more than 6,200 employers.[3] 2015 Hunkemöller recorded a turnover of 440 Million Euros.[4] The company was acquired by The Carlyle Group in the beginning of 2016.[5] Since the end of 2010 the company belonged to PAI Partners, a European private equity group.[6] Before it was part of Maxeda, a retail business from the Netherlands. Hunkemöller’s headquarter is in Hilversum."

--> the company has over 850 stores now. --> in 2011 Hunkemöller opened its 500th store and PAI partners acquired the company from its previous owner Maxeda. That year the company recorded a turnover of 440 Million Euros. In 2016 the 800th store was opened and acquired by current owner: The Carlyle Group. In 2017 Hunkemöller started "buying back" franchise stores in the Netherlands.

Global expansion:

Europe In 2001 the first Hunkemöller stores were opened in Denmark and France. In 2007 Hunkemöller firstly entered the Southern European market with their first store in Spain. The last years expansion in Spain has intensified since Hunkemöller is planning to open 140 stores. Besides Spain Hunkemöller opened it's first store in Switzerland in 2017 and is planning on entering multiple countries in Europe. Hunkemöller will expand to multiple Nordic countries, including to Norway (the first in 2018) and in Finland (the first in 2021). And in 2018 Hunkemöller will also open their first stores in Poland. The first store in Portugal is planned for 2020.

China By the end of 2018 Hunkemöller will open its first stores in China as well. The company is planning on opening 40 stores in China by 2022. The main cities to target first are likely to be Shanghai and Beijing.

Russia Hunkemöller has opened its first three stores in Russia in 2018 and is planning on having opened 12 stores by the end of 2018. The lingerie retailer should have 66 stores opened in Russia by the end of 2022. The focus will lie on Moscow and St Petersburgh, along with other key cities in western Russia.

Supply chain Hunkemöller collections are designed at the Hunkemöller Headquarter in Hilversum. The design, production and selling all happens in-house. Hunkemöller works with suppliers across the globe, but doesn't own any of the factories that produce their products. Hunkemöller is a member of the BSCI (Business Social Compliance Initiative), which works to improve working conditions in the supply chain.

HKM-EN (talk) 13:20, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 14-SEP-2018

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Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards,  spintendo  11:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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Reply 14-SEP-2018

Thank you for your feedback. I've rewritten the suggested edit with I believe the right formatting. Is this the correct way? --HKM-EN (talk) 13:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Some proposed changes

Relevant information to be found on the corporate website of Hunkemöller which could be a relevant addition to this Wikipedia page: https://www.hkmi.com/ Suggested changes:Bold text

Company history/company structure:

in 2003 the company made the step to start their first online webshop in the Netherlands. In 2009 the German webshop followed which is now the biggest market. Nowadays Hunkemöller has country specific webshops in: the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, the U.K., Luxemburg, Switzerland, Austria, France, Denmark, Sweden & in Spain.

Company History Hunkemöller

• rephrasing of:

"Since August the 31, the Dutch model Doutzen Kroes represents Hunkemöller as the new face of the brand.[2] Previously, the model and moderator Sylvie Meis was the face of the company."

--> There is no year mentioned with "August 31". Doutzen Kroes became the face of the brand in 2016.

"Hunkemöller runs an omni-channel operation, which contains own-operated stores, shop-in-shops, e-commerce and international franchise units. Hunkemöller began its franchise program in 1979. These days the lingerie company contains more than 800 stores, with more than 6,200 employers.[3] 2015 Hunkemöller recorded a turnover of 440 Million Euros.[4] The company was acquired by The Carlyle Group in the beginning of 2016.[5] Since the end of 2010 the company belonged to PAI Partners, a European private equity group.[6] Before it was part of Maxeda, a retail business from the Netherlands. Hunkemöller’s headquarter is in Hilversum."

--> the company has over 850 stores now. --> in 2011 Hunkemöller opened its 500th store and PAI partners acquired the company from its previous owner Maxeda. That year the company recorded a turnover of 440 Million Euros. In 2016 the 800th store was opened and acquired by current owner: The Carlyle Group. In 2017 Hunkemöller started "buying back" franchise stores in the Netherlands.

Global expansion:

Europe In 2001 the first Hunkemöller stores were opened in Denmark and France. In 2007 Hunkemöller firstly entered the Southern European market with their first store in Spain. The last years expansion in Spain has intensified since Hunkemöller is planning to open 140 stores. Besides Spain Hunkemöller opened it's first store in Switzerland in 2017 and is planning on entering multiple countries in Europe. Hunkemöller will expand to multiple Nordic countries, including to Norway (the first in 2018) and in Finland (the first in 2021). And in 2018 Hunkemöller will also open their first stores in Poland. The first store in Portugal is planned for 2020.

China By the end of 2018 Hunkemöller will open its first stores in China as well. The company is planning on opening 40 stores in China by 2022. The main cities to target first are likely to be Shanghai and Beijing.

Russia Hunkemöller has opened its first three stores in Russia in 2018 and is planning on having opened 12 stores by the end of 2018. The lingerie retailer should have 66 stores opened in Russia by the end of 2022. The focus will lie on Moscow and St Petersburgh, along with other key cities in western Russia.

Supply chain Hunkemöller collections are designed at the Hunkemöller Headquarter in Hilversum. The design, production and selling all happens in-house. Hunkemöller works with suppliers across the globe, but doesn't own any of the factories that produce their products. Hunkemöller is a member of the BSCI (Business Social Compliance Initiative), which works to improve working conditions in the supply chain.

HKM-EN (talk) 13:19, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

References

Reply 19-SEP-2018

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There remains two issues which are affecting this request:

1. The references are not formatted according to the style used by the article, CS1. However, this is secondary to a larger issue described below.
2. The requested changes are all referenced by a single source--that of the company itself. WP:SELFPUB states the following:

   Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as: #5: The article is not based primarily on such sources.

      Adding the references from the request would make the article predominantly sourced by the company itself (which in fact it largely already is). This would invoke the requirement above that they be published experts in the field. In order to verify that requirement, references from other sources outside of the company must be provided stating that the company is an expert in the areas these claims are addressing. To that end, please provide sources from outside of the company to reference these claims.

Regards,  spintendo  15:31, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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• It also looks pretty promotional to me. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 20-SEP-2018 to unproved edit request

Thank you for the feedback. Reading Wikipedia's guidelines, the suggested use of the company's corporate website was indeed wrong. Apologies for these suggestions.

Nonetheless, would you agree that information on the page could benefit from rephrasing and a few additions? Would there be interest, please consider including the following facts in several sections of the article suggestions including CS1 reference formatting of independent sources.

Company history/company structure:

In 2003 the company made the step to start their first online shop in the Netherlands. In 2009 the German online shop followed and in 2010 the Belgian website launched.

Hunkemöller runs an omni-channel strategy which entails its own online store(s), concession partners, and click and collect services.

These days Hunkemöller operates in about 900 stores in 25 countries.

Collections

In 2016 Doutzen Kroes was revealed as the lingerie brand’s new brand ambassador. The former Victoria’s Secret model has acted as the face of the brand ever since. Since then several collections have been released under the name “Doutzen Stories”.

The sub brand HKMX was first introduced in 2012 and has now developed into a store formula. In 2017 the first standalone HKMX store was opened in Berlin.

The brand has launched several collections with influencers. In 2017 the first influencer collaboration was introduced by a lingerie collection and swimwear collection together with Dutch Instagram star, blogger and TV presenter Anna Nooshin.

In 2017/2018, the brand launched collections with several German influencers such as Caroline Einhoff , Pamela Reif and Xenia Adonts

Global expansion:

In August 2018 Hunkemöller made its first entry in the Russian, Norwegian and Polish market.

HKM-EN (talk) 09:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Proposed addition to Category lists

Could this page be added to a few categories? Therefore, could following categories be added in the correct way at the bottom of the article?

• Category:Clothing brands
• Category:Underwear brands
• Category:Clothing companies of the Netherlands
• Category:Retail companies of the Netherlands

HKM-EN (talk) 09:01, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Let's get this straight

HKM-EN, are you unaware of Wikipedeia's policy on promotion, or are you so used to reading and writing marketing copy every day that you have become desensitised to promotional language, so that you can write in marketing-speak without even realising you are doing so? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:12, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

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Non-neutral statement without source.

Is it just me or is the ending of the "Diversity & Inclusion" section with "However this is very hypocritical of course." (no source) clearly inconsistent with Wikipedia style? Anacoid (talk) 12:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)