Talk:Hurricane Joanne (1972)

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Good article Hurricane Joanne (1972) has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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April 27, 2013 Good article nominee Listed
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Hurricane Joanne was one of four tropical cyclones to bring gale-force winds to the Southwestern United States?
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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Joanne (1972)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sven Manguard (talk · contribs) 06:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I will be performing a review of this nomination within the next 48 hours. Sven Manguard Wha? 06:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

GAN Quicksheet 1.24 SM
(Criteria)


Starting comments:


1. Well written:

a. prose/copyright: Pictogram voting delete.svg Needs work
  • "Joanne originated from a tropical disturbance that first developed on September 26 about 300 miles (485 km)* south of Guatemala, with ship reports and satellite imagery indicating an area of squally weather." - This sentence is unclear to me: is the "area of squally weather" Joanne or the tropical disturbance?
  • "Over September 27 and 28, it moved west at a rather quick rate." - What is a "rather quick rate"? I imagine that a quick rate for a hurricane is rather different from a quick rate for a human, so some sort of reference unit would be very helpful.
  • It's trival to add an exact speed if there was one. YE Pacific Hurricane 22:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
  • "The initial disturbance to Joanne brought squally weather to Guatemala." - I don't understand what is being said here. What is "The initial disturbance to Joanne"
  • "One person was also killed in the city." - How?
  • "The flooding caused $10 million (1972 USD) in property damage and eight deaths." The flooding from Joanne only or from Joanne and the second storm that was mentioned in the preceding sentence?
b. MoS compliance: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable

2. Accurate and verifiable: Pictogram resolved.svg Section acceptable

a. provides references: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable
b. proper citation use: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable
c. no original research: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable

3. Broad in coverage: Pictogram resolved.svg Section acceptable

a. covers main aspects: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable
b. focused/on topic: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable

4. Neutral: Pictogram resolved.svg Section acceptable

5. Stable: Pictogram resolved.svg Section acceptable

6. Image use: Pictogram resolved.svg Section acceptable

a. license/tagging correct: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable
b. relevant/properly captioned: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable

7. Additional items not required for a GA, but requested by the reviewer:

a. images that should have alt texts have them: Pictogram voting delete.svg Needs work
  • I think that the only image that can hold an alt text is the third image. Please give it an alt text.
b. general catch all and aesthetics: Pictogram resolved.svg Acceptable

Comments after the initial review: To be blunt, you need to spend more time copyediting. I'm used to fixing articles up as I go during reviews, but you've left a lot more work for me to do in that regard than I can ever remember having to do for an article that I considered likely to pass. I'm sorry, but it just feels rushed, and the Wikicup isn't license to rush through prose. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

See if that helps. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 18:26, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Issues 2, 4, and 5 from above still have not been resolved. Sven Manguard Wha? 19:57, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll leave those bits for the GAN submitter. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the review Seven. YE Pacific Hurricane 22:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Two concerns still not addressed:
  • You still have not addressed whether the flooding that caused $10 million was solely from Joanne, solely from the storm after Joanne, or from a combination of the two.
  • If you're going to make the statement that the storm moved quickly, some sort of context is needed. It doesn't have to be "37 MPH", but something that contextualizes why it's faster than normal is needed. Alternatively, you could just remove mention of speed in that sentence.
I won't be around until late tomorrow, so I'll check back in then. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)