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I've been helping to expand the article for this all-but-forgotten crash, and something caught my eye. There were 37 deaths, all sources agree, but the numbers in the article's nationality table (as of Sept 2009) add up to 36, so we're one short. To muddy the waters a bit more, the nationality breakdown described at http://www.fernhurstsociety.org.uk/caravelle.html is, quoting:

"There were no survivors from a total complement of 30 passengers and 7 crew ... The victims on the scheduled flight, Iberia 062, were the all-Spanish crew, and the passengers comprising 25 British, mostly returning from holiday in Spain, 2 Americans, 2 Spaniards and 2 Australians."

Add those passenger numbers up and you get 31, and then if you include the 7-member crew you'll get 38, which is one too many. Perhaps someone of dual-nationality is causing the discrepancy? It's a minor thing I suppose, but in the interests of accuracy I suggest that the nationality table be fixed somehow, or dropped entirely. Thoughts? --Itsfullofstars (talk) 08:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've commented out the table. Here is a copy as it appeared in the article:

The nationality of the 37 casualties are listed below.

Nationality Casualties
United Kingdom United Kingdom 25
Spain Spain 9 (inc. 7 crew)
United States United States 1
Australia Australia 1

--Itsfullofstars (talk) 19:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Mr A. T. T. Alexander of Camberley, Surrey
  2. Mr William Barrett of Brighton, fishmonger
  3. Mrs Constance Barrett, wife of William
  4. Mrs Bell
  5. Mr Donald Campbell, managing director of Campbell Aircraft Company
  6. and his wife Nan, of Hungerford Berkshire
  7. Mr. John Clarkson, an Industrialist and vice-president of Coventry City Football Club,
  8. his wife Rosemary, their children
  9. Paula, aged 4
  10. Katie, aged 3
  11. and their nanny Miss E Luff
  12. Mr J.H. Cotton from Lancashire
  13. Mr and
  14. Mrs N. Craigh-Chapman of Hans Place S.W.
  15. Mrs Goldman
  16. Mr Charles Griffiths, deputy coroner for Bristol and South Gloucestershire
  17. and his wife Viola, of Wick near Bristol
  18. Mrs Edith King, aged 66, a widow of Coach Road, Ottershaw, Surrey.
  19. Mr Arthur V. Madden
  20. Miss Anita Peer, a BOAC air hostess and her mother
  21. Mrs Golda Peer of Manor Park E.
  22. Mrs Barry Raickes of Mount Street W.
  23. Mr N Richardson from Hertfordshire
  24. Mr B Thomas of Sussex
  25. Miss June Thorburn, the actress, of East Heath Road, N.W.
  26. Australian Mr Bethune
  27. Two americans Mr Mandel
  28. and Mr Perkins
  29. and two spaniards Senor Herrera
  30. and Sonor J. Moya

Crew (all Spanish)

  1. Captain Hernando Maura Pieres
  2. Jose Morendo Humada second pilot
  3. Jose Maria Alvarez Menendez, flight engineer
  4. Areceli Cedillo Casanova, stewardess
  5. Rosario Gonzalez Fraile, stewardess
  6. Garcia Julia, steward
  7. Manuel Leanardo Barroso

The Times 6 November 1967 Page 2 - abbreviated locations are normally London. Does this help. MilborneOne (talk) 20:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you. It looks like the original table should have listed two Americans. The numbers now add up, so I've put the corrected table back in the article. --Itsfullofstars (talk) 06:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]