Talk:Ingibjörg Sólrún Gísladóttir
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[edit]This IcelandReview article says Ingibjörg Sólrún is a possible new PM, and if so she would become the first openly gay PM in the world. I would have thought that was notable. Loganberry (Talk) 21:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- You getting her mixed up with Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir! Physchim62 (talk) 21:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
First Line
[edit]I am Icelandic and I beg to differ with the first line:
The title of this article is an Icelandic name; the last name is a patronymic or matronymic, not a family name; the person is properly referred to by the given name Ingibjörg Sólrún.
It is true that in social or with known associates, one would use either the first name or the first and middle name
to address the person. HOWEVER, in most formal functions, one is referred to by their FIRST AND LAST NAMES. Example: my name is Njal Jon Magnusson. In a formal function, I would initially be addressed as "Njal Magnusson".
Who wrote this first line?? The person IS NOT PROPERLY REFERRED TO AS Ingibjörg Sólrún! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.48.40 (talk) 17:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- In a formal function, I would initially be addressed as "Njal Magnusson" Umm, no? What sort of formal function are you talking about? You might introduce yourself as Njáll Magnússon but I have a hard time imagining a situation where someone would address you in that way unless there were some risk of confusion otherwise. In any case, the convention in writing is to introduce a person with her or his full name and then refer to her or him with her given names on subsequent reference. That's what this boilerplate is attempting to describe. Haukur (talk) 17:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, unless the Icelandic customs have changed significantly in the last decade, I still have to disagree with the first line. If I were ANYWHERE in Iceland and someone asked me "Hvað heitir þú?" I would give my FULL NAME Njal Jon Magnusson. I don't understand why you are trying to drop her last name??? Is this some "sexism" thing that is going on in Iceland now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.129.71.26 (talk) 19:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, when asked "Hvað heitir þú?", it's sometimes reasonable to give the patronymic as well as the given names. One way to do it, perhaps a pedantic one, is to say: "Ég heiti Haukur og er Þorgeirsson". But in the rest of that conversation no-one would ever use the patronymic as part of an address unless, conceivably, if another Haukur were present. Even then, it would feel stilted and strange. Haukur (talk) 20:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
We are not in any disagreement about the customs regarding use of names AFTER introduction. Icelanders are much like Russians in that after a formal introduction is made only the first and middle names are used. When I speak with my relatives in Iceland, I obviously don't call them by their full names...I will use "Gunnar Bjorn" for example. Ditto with people who speak with me. After being introduced as "Njal Jon Magnusson", the people who heard the introduction will call me either "Njal" or "Njal Jon".
My issue was just the way the first line of this article was written. I still believe it needs to be modified. I don't mean to make a big deal out of this. I guess I just don't understand what is happening these days (:o) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.177.61.186 (talk) 22:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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