Talk:Italian cruiser Giovanni Bausan

Line-drawing

This edition of Brassey's has a line-drawing of the ship. Parsecboy (talk) 17:55, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Italian cruiser Giovanni Bausan/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Caponer (talk · contribs) 14:46, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Parsecboy, I will be completing a thorough and comprehensive review of this article within the next 48 hours. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns in the meantime. Thanks! -- Caponer (talk) 14:46, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

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Parsecboy, I have completed a thorough review and re-review of this article, and I find that it easily meets the bulk of criteria for passage to Good Article status. Before its passage, I do have some comments and questions that must first be addressed. Great job on this article. -- Caponer (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lede

• The photograph of Italian cruiser Giovanni Bausan in the article template has been released into the public domain and is therefore free for use here.
• Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section, the lede of this article adequately defines the topic, establishes the necessary context, and explains why the cruiser is notable.
• Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking, it is not necessary to wiki-link England in the prose.
  • Fixed
• Should it be rewritten that "She was the first ship of this type..."?
  • Sure
• I suggest adding an a at "and later as a depot ship..."
  • Fixed
• The conquest of Eritrea is wiki-linked in the Service history section but not in the lede. This term should be linked here as it is in the Service history section.
  • Added
• The lede is well-written, consists of content that is adequately sourced and verifiable, and I have no other comments or questions for this section.

Design

• Elswick, Tyne and Wear should be wiki-linked here due to it being the first mention within the article's main prose.
  • Added
• Chile probably doesn't need a wiki-link here per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking.
  • Removed
• Regia Marina (Royal Navy) should be written and linked as they are above in the lede, as this is the navy's first mention in the article's main prose.
  • I don't think it's necessary to use the official name every time.
• Per Wikipedia:Inline citation, inline citations should be consolidated at the end of the sentences in numerical order.
  • It's fine as is per WP:INTEGRITY
• I noticed that in some occasions the ship is mentioned merely as Bausan rather than Giovanni Bausan. Its title should remain consistent throughout the prose.
  • I think some of these crept in from edits earlier today from another editor - fixed now.
• This subsection is well-written, consists of content that is adequately sourced and verifiable, and I have no other comments or questions for this subsection.

General characteristics and machinery

• The image of the line-drawing of Giovanni Bausan is properly licensed and is therefore free for use here.
• Etna-class should be wiki-linked here as it is the first mention of the class in the article's main prose outside the lede.
  • This was linked until earlier today.
• As mentioned above, the cruiser's title should remain consistent throughout the prose.
• Also as mentioned above, per Wikipedia:Inline citation, inline citations should be consolidated at the end of the sentences in numerical order.
• This subsection is well-written, consists of content that is adequately sourced and verifiable, and I have no other comments or questions for this subsection.

Armament and armor

• 'armor' belt should probably be written as "armor" belt with full quotation marks.
  • Fixed.
• As mentioned above, per Wikipedia:Inline citation, inline citations should be consolidated at the end of the sentences in numerical order.
• This subsection is well-written, consists of content that is adequately sourced and verifiable, and I have no other comments or questions for this subsection.

Service history

• The image in this section is properly licensed and free for use in this article.
• United Kingdom is mentioned here, but England is mentioned in the lede. The country of origin should be named similarly in both, so I'd select one or the other. England probably works better, as it is more precise.
  • Fair enough
• As mentioned above, the cruiser's title should remain consistent throughout the prose.
• Also as mentioned above, per Wikipedia:Inline citation, inline citations should be consolidated at the end of the sentences in numerical order.
• A space is needed before "The Italian contingent" in the second paragraph of this section.
  • Fixed - good catch.
• Should Flagship Cyrenaica be written as flagship Cyrenaica?
  • Cyrenaica is a place, so italics is unnecessary.
• Tons should be converted here to metric tons as well.
  • I don't know what unit is being used here - it was already cited in the article when I overhauled it, and I don't have access to the source.

• Parsecboy, thank you for addressing each of my above comments, questions, and suggestions in such a thorough and timely manner. I just have one more question for you, which I neglected to mention earlier. Who is Giovanni Bausan? This should probably be addressed in the prose. He must have been notable to some degree to have a ship named for him. -- Caponer (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Parsecboy, it looks like from the little Italian I know that Giovanni Bausan was a captain in the Neapolitan navy. There is also an unsourced German Wikipedia article about Giovanni Bausan. I'm going to continue digging for a good source for you to reference in this article. -- Caponer (talk) 15:31, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
    • Alright, I've added a bit on the ship's namesake. Thanks again. Parsecboy (talk) 18:15, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
      • Parsecboy, thank you for adding the information and source for the ship's namesake. It is hereby a privilege for me to pass this article to Good Article status! Thank you again for all your hard work. -- Caponer (talk) 14:38, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Photo

here. Parsecboy (talk) 18:19, 7 January 2016 (UTC)