Talk:James Gang
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Session with Jeff Beck
[edit]did the james gang play is a session with jeff beck
Not that I know of but a pre Led Zeppelin track which was a Jimmy Page arrangement of Ravel's Bolero which included guitarist Jeff Beck was included in an original version of the James Gang album The James Gang Rides Again in a song called The Bomber. To my knowledge Beck and Walsh never played together at least in the studio.
Fat Boy Slim
[edit]should something be added about the fame that came out of Fat Boy Slims's number one hit right here right now, the song was heavily sampled from one of their songs, thats how i heard about them! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.113.66 (talk) 15:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Opening for the Youngbloods
[edit]The first rock concert I ever attended was at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit, where the James Gang opened for the Youngbloods. Since there were just three musicians, I wonder if the info on the May 1968 show is correct, i.e. maybe it wasn't the Cream they opened for, but the Youngbloods. I would love to know the date of this excellent James Gang + Youngbloods show. Does anyone know? 216.228.176.203 (talk) 11:57, 11 September 2010 (UTC)Eddie Kinnamon
Opening for The Who in Cincinnati 1970
[edit]I am looking for authentication and cannot find it elsewhere. Indeed other internet sites repeat that the James Gang's opening for The Who was on a European tour. I remember clearly, however, and can produce witnesses, watching both bands in one night on the stage of Cincinnati's Music Hall in 1970. Rockyjocket (talk) 18:10, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Rockyjocket. According to a Cincinnati Enquirer review dated June 26, 1970, the James Gang opened for the Who at Cincinnati's Music Hall on Thursday night, June 25, 1970. "Other internet sites" seem to be about as well researched as this (mostly unsourced) Wiki article currently is. (Although to be fair the Wiki article contains the part about how the Gang opened for the Who in USA. I was mostly complaining about the whole "Tommy Bolin last show" business which several people on another forum from Cleveland were questioning.) TheBlinkster (talk) 18:13, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Cleanup
[edit]Spelling, punctuation, grammar and structure cleaned up. Some facts checked. Greenglen 19:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The "Funk #49" link is not working properly.
(above unsigned comment apparently added on 1 August 2007)
- OK, I edited the lead paragraph to provide a working link (using "Funk Number 49", as "#" can't be used in article title URLs). -- HLachman (talk) 08:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
The James Gang was / were
[edit]It should be the James Gang were. I've seen this on many other pages. Someone is obviously confused since Americans say "Cream is" whereas the British say "Cream are". They need to learn that we say "Cream is" and "The Doobie Brothers are".
(above unsigned comment apparently added on 25 December 2012)
- "Gang" is a singular noun. So let's stick with "was." -- HLachman (talk) 08:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Its not singular. It's plural. Unless a single individual can constitute an entire gang. Observation. about British English being more correct, is correct.
Tommy Bolin's last show
[edit]I'm skeptical of July 27, 1974 being the last date Tommy Bolin played with The James Gang, as they played a show in my hometown of Flint, MI on 8/15/1974. I remember that because I was really geeked to see them, but I was scheduled to be on my honeymoon that week with my first wife. As it turns out, I should have gone to the show instead. I know the show actually happened because at the time I knew people who attended.198.2.5.101 (talk) 19:56, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- The July 27, 1974 date is definitely wrong. There is an August 9, 1974 Cleveland Plain Dealer review of an ELP show in Cleveland on August 5, 1974, that clearly states Bolin was playing guitar (talks about his guitar sound and the writer was a long-time local Cleveland rock writer and photographer who would have known everybody in the band). I'm taking that bit of misinformation out but not going to opine on when the "last show" was, since I have not found a print source saying "last show" and it seems likely he would have played other shows already committed for August rather than leave the band in the lurch. TheBlinkster (talk) 17:37, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- OK, I just also found a source from a Texas newspaper reviewing a show that the James Gang played down there around August 18 or 19, 1974 and mentioning Bolin as playing that show too. So "last show" in July is definitely wrong. Still, nothing definitive on when his "last show" with the Gang actually was. TheBlinkster (talk) 18:06, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
who the hell is Joe Zaucha?
[edit]Somebody added "Joe Zaucha" to this article on 1 September 2014, and I removed it. The same mysterious name had been added to the Glenn Schwartz article on 4 January 2012 (and removed 2 years later, on 4 January 2014). These two suspicious edits originated from IP addresses that are related. So it appears to be a case of vandalism. -- HLachman (talk) 08:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Joe Zaucha was indeed a Cleveland local bass player who was in a few bands in town in the early 1970s. The Cleveland Plain Dealer has him in a band called "P.J. Circus" (not the same lineup as Circus (American band) ) as of 1973. However, I have not found a print source associating him definitely with either Glenn or the Gang. It is possible he was involved in the early days of the band, informal scenes being what they are, but without a print source confirming it he can't go in the article. Unfortunately people edit these articles sometimes based on their old memories or some desire to help the reputation of some friend of theirs, without properly sourcing stuff they add, since memories are not enough. TheBlinkster (talk) 18:25, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I removed his name in 2014 because it had been added as a 4th name in the caption of a photo with 3 people, which was suspicious enough, and it didn't even have correct punctuation. Regards -- HLachman (talk) 17:03, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- In addition, a similar poorly-punctuated reference lasted for two years in the Glenn Schwartz article (see above), and that text (along with the poor punctuation) seems to have propagated elsewhere on the web. Well, we can only clean up what we can. -- HLachman (talk) 17:17, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Music gaming
[edit]I propose to remove the "music gaming" section and consolidate it with similar information already appearing in the James Gang Rides Again article, because that's the page with more specific info about Funk #49. -- HLachman (talk) 08:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Music gaming section removed for reasons stated above and also because the section seemed to be concerned more with the gaming platforms than the band. The relevant info is now in the James Gang Rides Again article. -- HLachman (talk) 09:12, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]This template is on the article, but I see no talk of it here. Is there a specific complaint from anyone? Like sections which need to be addressed? HacksawPC (talk) 12:55, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Newborn and Jesse Come Home chart performance edits
[edit]In the James Gang and Newborn album articles as of 20 Nov 2023 the Newborn LP was credited with reaching #97 on the Billboard 200, the same as the Miami LP. I manually searched each week of the 1975 Billboard 200 chart.
Newborn entered the chart at #164 the week ending 31 May 1975. Was #154 the week ending 7 June. Was #140 the week ending 14 June. Was #119 the weeks ending 28 June and 5 July. It peaked at #109 the weeks ending 12 and 19 July. It dropped to #158 the week ending 26 July and was not on the chart the following week.
In the James Gang and Jeese Come Home articles the Jesse Come Home LP was credited with reaching #109 on the Billboard 200. Additionally, the Jesse Come Home article listed the year as 1974 instead of 1976. I manually searched each week of the 1976 Billboard 200 chart.
Jesse Come Home did not chart during 1976.
It appears that whoever originally added the Billboard 200 chart positions accidentally copied the Miami LP peak chart position of 97 onto the Newborn cell then put Newborn's 109 onto the Jesse Come Home cell. Boston Loew (talk) 01:19, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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