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Social organisation template problem

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This is the data, but the template used omits the offspring. Anyone capable of fixing this?

Cycle A (Phratry) Wife Husband Offspring
Chungalee Chimitcha) Taralee
Chula Chuna Tanagree
Taralee Chemara Chula
Tungaree Champina Chingaree
Cycle B (Phratry) Wife Husband Offspring
Chimitcha Chungalee Champina
Chuna Chula Chemara
Champina Tangaree Chuna
Chimara Taralee Chimitcha

Nishidani (talk) 11:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Divisions of the Jingili tribe[1]
Phratry Section of Parents Section of Offspring
Wife Husband Offspring
Cycle A Chungalee
Chula
Taralee
Tungaree
Chimitcha
Chuna
Chemara
Champina
Taralee
Tanagree
Chula
Chingaree
Cycle B Chimicha
Chuna
Champina
Chimara
Chungalee
Chula
Tangaree
Taralee
Champina
Chemara
Chuna
Chimitcha

Nishidani, This (above) might be what you want. It is a bit hard to tell. Cheers · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, this (below) is what is in the reference cited (Matthews 1900):

Divisions of the Jingili tribe[2]
Phratry Section of Parents Section of Offspring
Husband Wife Son Daughter
A Jimmitcha
Chunainjah
Chemarainjah
Tampachina
Nungalleeinja
Nalainjah
Naraleeinjah
Nungareeinjah
Taraleeinjah
Tungareeinjah
Chulainjah
Chungaleeinjah
Naraleeinjah
Nungareeinjah
Nalainjah
Nungalleeinja
B Chungaleeinjah
Chulainjah
Tungareeinjah
Taraleeinjah
Nameeinjah
Nanainjah
Nabajinah
Nemarainjah
Tampachina
Chemarainjah
Chunainjah
Jimmitcha
Nabajinah
Nemarainjah
Nanainjah
Nameeinjah

Social organisation data quality

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There's clearly some inconsistencies in the data as shown in the article right now. Specifically, these Offspring sections don't appear (in any spelling) in those of their parents:

  • Tanagree
  • Chingaree

Was there a typo in the source(s)?

Also, as Mathews used a fairly consistent orthography later on, in which vowels took "Italian" values, my guess is that these two sections ought to be:

  • Tungaree
  • Chungalee

respectively. yoyo (talk) 05:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, what do we know of Mathews' informants for this data? Since his many field researches were in south-eastern Australia, and he relied on many correspondents e.g. Strehlow for data on Aboriginal groups further from home, do the sources (1900 and 1908) - or perhaps any of his notebooks - name his informants? yoyo (talk) 05:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ a b Mathews 1908a, p. 101.
  2. ^ Mathews 1900, p. 495.