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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:K-23 (Kansas highway)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Floydian (talk · contribs) 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hello I am Floydian and I will be your waiter on this fine occasion. I've listed my concerns below, which you can chose to respond to individually, or as a group at the bottom. Overall the article is in great shape, and I only have a few issues and suggestions for your attention. Cheers, Floydian τ ¢ 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prose review

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Lede
  • "By Grainfield, the section that follows old US-40 is the former Golden Belt. A section from Hoxie southward along K-23 follows the former Roosevelt National Highway. Farther north in Hoxie, it crosses the former Kansas White Way and former Blue Line" - The Golden Belt, Kansas White Way and former Blue Line aren't explained or given much context. These three sentences are repeated verbatim in the History section, so perhaps that is the better to place to expand a little on what they are.
-- Floydian τ ¢ 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RD
checkY - Issues resolved
  • "K-23 is not included in the National Highway System,[3] a system of highways important to the nation's defense, economy, and mobility.[4] K-27 does connect to the National Highway System at its junction with US-54 and US-160 in Meade, US-50 and US-400 in Cimarron, I-70 and US-40 by Grainfield, and its northern terminus at US-83 and K-383." - Not sure if K-27 is a typo here. I'd also suggest rewording that sentence, possibly along the lines of "However, it does connect to the National Highway System at..."
  • "About 3.2 miles (5.1 km) into Gove County it crosses the Smoky Hill River, then Plum Creek about 1.3 miles (2.1 km) later." - Sections should stand somewhat independently. You should specify what "it" is in cases like this.
  • Do you feel that the Walnut Creek branches or Hackberry Creek are worthy of an article? If not I'd suggest delinking them as with most of the other creeks mentioned in the article.
  • The word "continues" appears 27 times in the RD. Vary it up a bit!
-- Floydian τ ¢ 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
History
checkY - Issues resolved
  • "In Meade it crosses the former Atlantic and Pacific Highway." - Again, no context to "it" to begin this section. Is "it" an auto trail, or K-23?
  • Refer to my note under Lede.
  • Take a look at this edit; I changed "In a January 11, 1938 resolution, the overlap with K-4, west of Shields, was moved one mile (1.6 km) north." to "In a January 11, 1938 resolution, the overlap with K-4 west of Shields was moved one mile (1.6 km) north." Your mileage may vary here, but I consider what you had to be a comma splice. I get your use of them: avoiding parenthesis or representing the long stop of conversation. However, "west of shields" is not a dependent clause as it lacks a verb. There are several of these throughout the article that you should fix.
-- Floydian τ ¢ 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Junction list
  • checkY - Looks good
-- Floydian τ ¢ 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

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checkY - Good to go
  • I suggest moving the link to Kansas Department of Transportation from ref #33 to ref #2. Likewise, only ref #1 need link to Rand McNally. I assume ref #18 is intentionally linked to Mr. Clason. This is not part of the GA criteria, but it will come up if you take the article to A/FA (which IMO it would do well at)
  • In the broader scope, the formatting is consistent and clean. Nice work!
-- Floydian τ ¢ 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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checkY - Images all nominator's own work
-- Floydian τ ¢ 07:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The actual GA checklist

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GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

Passed - Exceeds GA criteria

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    Grammar issues resolved above
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
    Excellent referencing
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Covers the route and its history comprehensively and succinctly
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Images are all properly licenced
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I am passing the article at this point. All my concerns have been addressed. Good work! - Floydian τ ¢ 20:20, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Amkgp (talk05:43, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Improved to Good Article status by 420Traveler (talk). Self-nominated at 18:49, 20 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I wasn't saying being interesting is a requirement of DYK, but it certainly helps. A hook should make you want to click the link and read the article (this is my opinion). This hook doesn't do that. –Fredddie 06:14, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @420Traveler:@Fredddie: Being interesting is certainly part of our criteria: see WP:DYK#Cited hook a. The hook should include a definite fact that is mentioned in the article and interesting to a broad audience.
  • Here is a suggested angle:
  • ALT1: ... that Kansas highway K-23 is known as Main Street in Cimarron, Dighton, and Hoxie?
  • If you like this alt, each sentence mentioned in the hook needs an inline cite per WP:DYK#Cited hook. Yoninah (talk) 23:27, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: I do like that one. I added the citations, they may be in the wrong place but I'm new to DYK. Thanks -420Traveler (talk) 00:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1. For some reason I'm unable to access ksdot.org, but the references are in place and verified by two others. Well done finding an interesting hook, I wasn't able to myself. CMD (talk) 07:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]