# Talk:Kali Yuga

## Yuga Lifespans 100,000 years, 10,000 years, 1000 years, 100 years, 20 years.

I was wondering if we could add a little bit about the average lifespan in the different yugas.

I have many sources that show that in Sata Yuga the average lifespan was 100,000 years. In Treta Yuga the average lifespan was 10,000 years. In Dvapara Yuga the average lifespan was 1,000 years. In the beginning of Kali-Yuga 5,110 years ago the average lifespan was 100 years and at the end of Kali-Yuga the average lifespan will be 20 years. Could we add this in the Yuga articles. Thank You. Here are some sources.

http://www.vaikunt.org/AyyaVaikuntar/kalanemi.htm

http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Yuga

http://salvia.us/archive/10815.shtmlMaldek (talk) 01:45, 10 May 2008 (UTC) I have added the lifespans, though someone seems to not belive it. Why were my edits deleted!!!!!!!!

## 5,000 years after 3102 B.C. is 1898 CE not 1899 CE

I was wondering if somebody could change the Golden Period of Kali-Yuga to 1898 CE instead of 1899 CE because if you say Kali-Yuga started in 3102 B.C. and that the golden period will begin 5,000 years after Kali-Yuga's start then that equals 1898 CE. I have tried to change it before but for some reason by edit was constantly reverted. To me 1898 CE makes mathematical sense, whereas 1899 CE is off by one year. If you could fix this small error, I would be much obliged. Thank You.Maldek (talk) 01:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Your error is assuming that the first year of the Kali-Yuga was year one. Because all years in the Hindu calendar are elapsed/expired/completed years, at any time before that first year had been completed, it was not yet year one, so it must be year zero. So 3102 cannot be subtracted from 5000. Only 3101 should be subtracted, yielding 1899 as the year when 5000 years have elapsed. — Joe Kress (talk) 02:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I have added the lifespans to all the yuga articles. Here are the RELIABLE sources I used:

http://www.harekrishnatemple.com/bhakta/chapter19.html

http://www.vaikunt.org/AyyaVaikuntar/kalanemi.htm

http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Yuga

http://salvia.us/archive/10815.shtml

Gopal81ChatMe!ReadMe!! 02:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

## Golden age within Kali Yuga is 'to start 5,000 years after its beginning'

I respectfully request evidence be given for the claim that a golden age within Kali Yuga is 'to start 5,000 years after its beginning'. The reference given 'ibid, 4.129.50' assuming it refers to the Brahma Vaivarta Purana provides no supporting evidence for this claim, at least that I can see.

What the Brahma Vaivarta Purana according to gauranga.org states is: 'Lord Hari will stay on this earth for the first ten-thousand years of Kali-yuga. For that time the deities of the demigods will be worshiped and the Puranas and scriptures will also be present. For half that period the Ganga and other holy places will be present. For half that period the village temples and the Vedas studied by learned brahmanas will be present.'

The Brahma Vaivarta Purana according to archive.org states something similar 'O Ganges, you had better remain on earth for five thousand years of Kali.' ... 'My believers will remain on earth for 10,000 years of the iron age.'

So there's evidently a progressive decline. I flagged the relevant citation with a verification failure for now. ICouldBeWrong (talk) 15:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I've edited the article to address this issue, and now consider it resolved. BTW Dougweller thanks for removing 'orthodox', on reflection I agree it was spurious. ICouldBeWrong (talk) 09:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

## Age of Iron?

I've heard Kali-Yuga described as "the age of iron", e.g.: http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/time.htm#6
There is at least one reference to this on WP (S.S. Kaliyuga). I don't feel qualified to make changes here, but believe something like "also known as the age of iron" should be in the lead; with perhaps an explanation later in the article. (I just noticed a reference to "iron age" in the post immediately above). Update: it is mentioned under Brahma Kumaris, but should be mentioned in the lead. ~Eric F ~Eric F184.76.225.106 (talk) 06:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

## Modern esoteric conceptions

Should we put something in here about how the Kali Yuga is represented in modern Western esoteric streams? I'm thinking about Rudolf Steiner specifically since I'm doing a lot of reading of his lectures and he mentions the Kali Yuga as being over and we're now on an upward path. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric m allen (talkcontribs) 18:51, 6 August 2013 (UTC)