Talk:Klaxons
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[edit]- Klaxons singled out a new song that has strong prog influences as a guide to one possible direction the album may go in, revealed recently NME.
I saw that the article is listed for GAN. There's an unsourced quotation in the "Polydor" section that I've tagged as needing a source. Also, the sentence above seems awkward. What doesn "revealed recently NME" mean? Will Beback talk 21:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:Klaxons/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
I will be happy to review for GAC. H1nkles (talk) 20:35, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
GA Review Philosophy
[edit]When I do an article review I like to provide a Heading-by-Heading breakdown of suggestions for how to make the article better. It is done in good faith as a means to improve the article. It does not necessarily mean that the article is not GA quality, or that the issues listed are keeping it from GA approval. I also undertake minor grammatical and prose edits. After I finish this part of the review I will look at the over arching quality of the article in light of the GA criteria and make my determination as to the overall quality of the article.
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Regarding Lead
[edit]- Your lead is very short. Per WP:LEAD it is to be a summary of the article. Please consider expanding to include band history and other parts of the article.
Regarding Formation
[edit]- I'm seeing a common prose error identified in this example, "The band added repacement live drummer Steffan Halperin, with the band announcing" "...with the band announcing..." this is a passive voice and isn't good prose for an encyclopedia article. I fixed a previous example in this section under the edit summary, "ce". Instead make the second half of this sentence its own sentence.
Regarding Polydor records
[edit]- I added a [citation needed] to the first sentence in this section. Aside from it being a stub paragraph (which needs to be expanded or combined with another paragraph) you'll need to cite this fact. H1nkles (talk) 20:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- Check the tense in this sentence, I believe you're supposed to be in the past tense according to the context, "the band follow in the footsteps of Miss Kittin, Erol Alkan, Felix Da Housecat and Simian Mobile Disco, who have all made similar contributions. It was officially released on 1 October 2007."
- I reiterate the concerns on the article's talk page regarding this paragraph, "Klaxons singled out a new song that has strong prog influences as a guide to one possible direction the album may go in, revealed recently NME. Guitarist Simon Taylor said: "We wanna make something that's bigger and softer and louder and lo-fi and heavier produced - just lots of contradictions. I think it's gonna be like the last record but swollen. We've been listening to a lot of European prog music and dubstep and dance and folk. A huge broad variety of things really. There's one track we've been playing in soundcheck, it's this massive prog opus." A cite needs to be added. Also what is a "prog"? This sounds like jargon to me.
- Stub paragraph, "Klaxons performed with the singer Rihanna on the song "Umbrella" which had "Golden Skans" mixed into the background during the Brit Awards 2008 held in London on 20 February 2008." please expand or combine.
- No need to wikilink American unless there is an article on the American NME awards. Otherwise it's too general to link to the U.S. article.
- To be fair I'd say the same thing about the linking to the various countries in the next paragraph. Unless there is an article specific to the band's tour I don't think it adds anything to this article to link to the country. H1nkles (talk) 21:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Regarding Musical style
[edit]- Need to cite this section better.
Regarding Awards
[edit]- You reference one of the awards but not the rest. This is inconsistent, you'll need to reference the rest. H1nkles (talk) 21:11, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Regarding references
[edit]References are ok, links check out.
Regarding Interview/links
[edit]This link Interview InTheMix and Unseen TV does not link to anything about the band as far as I can tell. H1nkles (talk) 21:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Overall comments
[edit]- There are some prose issues that I've outlined above.
- Primarily the issue is references. You need to better reference your information.
- The lead needs to be expanded.
- Some of your wikilinking is a bit excessive, I've outlined that above.
- Photos look good.
- I'll hold the article for a week to allow you to make the fixes and then review it again. H1nkles (talk) 21:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- Article has been on hold for a week with no work or comments on my review. I am forced at this point to fail the article. Please consider my comments and make changes and renominate. H1nkles (talk) 20:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Globalize Tag
[edit]I attempted to fix some of the "jargon" I encountered:
- I was confused by the term "redundant" as in: "work in a record shop, before moving to London after being made redundant". I had to click the link to realize it meant being fired. Is being "fired" or "laid off" a more global understanding?
I've changed it back. It makes no sense to change "made redundant" to "fired" and leave in the later reference to "redundancy money". Also fired suggests he was to blame, which changes the meaning. 87.194.105.247 (talk) 00:22, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- I removed "one-off". I don't know what that is and the context seemed fine without it.
- I exchanged "prog" for progressive rock.
- I exchanged the specific religious use of "Christmas" with December since this holiday falls in that month.
Side note: I also linked to other wiki pages multiple times. Not everyone reads whole articles, myself included. Just because they are linked earlier in an article does not mean someone will see that section, and thus the link.
- Ausher8 (talk) 12:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
- Made redundant here = the record shop went out of business. If you're fired you've done something wrong, which is of course a diferent thing. Is there a US equivalent to this, or should we just say "lost his job"? 阝工巳几千凹父工氐 (talk) 01:07, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- I can see a number of other issues with the article too, I'll try and give it a thorough copy-edit later on today. doomgaze (talk) 12:22, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Influences
[edit]This article on Klaxons should have a section dedicated to explaining where they got influences for most of their songs by adding information from other articles like this one: "Atlantis to Interzone" is a song by British indie electro act Klaxons. The song references the mythical lost city of Atlantis and the short story collection Interzone by William S. Burroughs, which is itself Burroughs' concept of a "metaphorical stateless city". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maccoutinho (talk • contribs) 11:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Inspiration
[edit]According to the author, Crowley's book 'Magick Without Tears' would concern "Wiccan practices"... Since I really don't think that is in any way true, I'd like to ask on which the author bases this claim...?
85.159.97.4 (talk) 18:01, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Split
[edit]For some reason anonymous editors keep changing the article to the past tense - i.e the group are no more. Even though this seems likely to be the case, as yet there has been no announcement of this, only that they have stopped touring. If and when they announce a split (or even if we have some other kind of reliable source to add) then that is the time to change the article, not now. 阝工巳几千凹父工氐 (talk) 07:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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