Talk:Kommando Spezialkräfte

Expansion?

Can anyone expound upon the KSK in the GWOT?

18:57, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Not like US 'Special Forces Command'

It's under the Headline, where you write:

"The Kommando Spezialkräfte (Special Forces Command, KSK) ..."

I think you should mention that 'Special Forces Command' ist the word-by-word translation and refers to the german word "Kommando" as a unit and not a leading staff or so. It's easily muddled up with the US Special Forces Command.

In german Army a "Kommando" ist a special unit, behind enemy lines. In WW2 german "Kommandos": "Brandenburger", a special unit for sabotage and search and destroy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.146.113.75 (talk) 00:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

Special Forces Command is the correct translation. The "Kommando" stands not for "commando" or sth. like this. It is used equally like for example in "Kommando Strategische Aufklärung", "Streitkräfteunterstützungskommando" or "Heeresführungskommando" and is just a special kind of military department. That is why the commander of the KSK is called "General Spezialkräfte und Kommandeur KSK".

I disagree. Considering that regular soldiers (which are AFAIK all sergeants [i.e. Feldwebel] or above) in the KSK are referred to as Kommandofeldwebel - which would make sense if you translate it as Commando, i.e. Commando Sergeant. Same for officers, they are reffered to as Kommandooffiziere (Commando Officers). Neither would make sense if you translate "Kommando" as "Command". —Booone21 (talk) 11:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

I The word "Kommando" has both meanings: Commando AND Command. In this case, Special Forces Command is actually the correct translation, which is also indicated by the article "DAS Kommando Spezialkräfte". With the translation as "Commando", you would rather use "Die Kommando-Spezialkräfte". Furthermore, on the official Youtube channel of the Bundedwehr, you can find a video about the KSK in english, where also the term "Special Forces Command" is used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL5-ZbpaUVs @0:20 .

Reinhard Günzel

commander of the KSK from Nov. 24, 2000 to November 4, 2003 claimed in his book Geheime Krieger German: secret warriors; Published December 2000 that the KSKsoldiers "know their roots exactly", and that amongst them the Brandenburgers' missions are "downright legendary". This was politically controversial as the Bundeswehr does not derive its military tradition from the Wehrmacht as a whole. Günzel was fired in 2003 after he publicly applauded an anti-semitic rant of a local right-wing parlamentarian.

This sounds like a slur against the german armed forces, and the KSK in particular. i find it pointless to add this statment. to even suggest a leading member in the KSK was a neo nazi just disguists me. wether its true or not i do not know. But i argue the importance of adding something that is not connected to or has anything to do with the KSK. point being, it doesnt need to be there.

It was certainly not an anti-semitic rant what he applauded, but merely a speech that, perhaps deliberately, went on tabooised ground. Looking the speech up (I don't know whether there is an English translation, but Wikipedia gives a fairly accurate summary) will prove that, whatever to be said about the content, or political prudence, and the like, it does not deserve the name "anti-semitic rant".--77.4.93.198 (talk) 10:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 14:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Clarifying

Hi, reading this : "There are four commando squads in every platoon. Each of these groups consist of about four equally skilled members that have been..." Just what is the group referring to, could this possibly be changed to squad or platoon, as group certainly is a word with a different usage? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.72.62 (talk) 23:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

New commander

Hi, the ksk has a new commander. His name is Dag Baehr, he is commander since 4th of april 2013 in charge. His rank is Oberst ( colonel). He is also the first commander of the ksk who has the "normal" ksk-soldier training, like all the other guys. source:http://www.deutschesheer.de/portal/a/dso/!ut/p/c4/NYzBCsIwEET_aDepqOjNUgrizYvWi6xpaKJpUrZbvfjxJgdnYBh4w-ANsyO9_UDiU6SAV-yM3z8-4Kzlez8noJcsNgQ7QyTj2BsnNsKTHFdKr4Am9qE0vJSz3oJJ0UrJvBOfc2CSxDAlllDIwpwJ-B47pZtardVf-rvbtG110tW2OdZnnMbx8ANdaiLH/ (only in german)90.187.20.4 (talk) 00:02, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Restructuring / partial disbanding following the 2020 controversy

As a reaction to the controversy surrounding allegeded and confirmed right-wing tendencies within parts of KSK that were discovered and discussed in 2020, 2. Commando Company (2. Kommandokompanie) will be disbanded on August 1, 2020. (in German) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.29.115.20 (talk) 13:42, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

References

Are examples of equivalent commands of other nations necessary?

If it is, then why are there only 2 more examples and why are many others being removed? SReader21 (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

The disbanded KSK Second Wing

I don't think the leftist forces can be so arrogant. This is a problem I have studied for many years, because the German special forces are anti-terrorist missions and have nothing to do with politics. It doesn't mean that if you raise a Nazi gesture, politics will block the second company. This is unreasonable. self-esteem and trust. 2401:E180:8D02:879B:A704:C58D:77F3:2607 (talk) 08:03, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Correction of the unit badge?

Its an mistake that can be easily be made, but the unit badge is wrong. The logo shown here is the logo of the Luftlandebrigade 1, which is the Rapid Forces Division (here: [Logo](https://www.bundeswehr.de/en/organization/army/organization/rapid-forces-division) in which the special forces of the army are located. The actual Logo actually looks like [this](https://www.bundeswehr.de/resource/image/5071636/portrait_ratio1x1/1000/1000/92b6e9df18c62822c12b40e962068c17/97F2775C76CE816EEB55488AE824B122/bild-ksk-wappen.png) ([reference](https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/organisation/heer/organisation/division-schnelle-kraefte/kommando-spezialkraefte) only in german sadly) They are called Kommando Spezialkräfte (Special Forces Command). ProfBoomre (talk) 10:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)