Talk:Les Démocrates

Crédit social uni

This statement about the Parti crédit social uni is erroneous as far as I can tell :

Social crediters who did not follow Samson into the Liberal Party may have joined the Parti credit social uni, which was formed in 1981 by a merger of the Parti nationale populaire (PNP) and the Ralliement créditiste du Québec [1]. The PNP was the result of a split in the RCQ in 1975.

(Note : Replaced footnote with direct link to the web page as archived by web.archive.org, since it is no longer available directly.)

The source actually specifies that : "Both parties disappeared at the beginning of the 80s and were replaced by the em>Parti crédit social uni (United Social Credit), founded in 1979."

Given the general context, the author presumably meant that the PCSU was a new party based on the social credit ideology, without trying to imply any official link between the PCSU and the Ralliement créditiste.

According to this book : Bernard, André. Québec : élections 1981 (in French). Montreal: Hurtubise HMH. pp. p. 158. ISBN 2890455009. {{cite book}}: |pages= has extra text (help), the RCQ and the PNP were dissolved, and no mention is made of them merging to form the Parti crédit social uni/United Social Credit.

An article from the Globe and Mail also fails to mention such a thing : Canadian Press (October 20, 1979). "Party leader seeks election in Quebec vote". The Globe and Mail. p. P-2. That article does mention however that the PCSU was a provincial wing of the federal Social Credit Party of Canada.

I have changed the article accordingly. — ABCXYZ (talk) 20:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

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I disagree with the move of this article to an English translation of the party name. Please see Talk:Rally_for_National_Independence. Ground Zero | t 18:38, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

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While editors may be anxous to move this article to an Enlgish language form of the name, please note that it is incorrect to do so:

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Thank you. Ground Zero | t 01:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

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