Talk:Libby Roderick

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The near-total lack of attention given to the deletion of Template:Libby Roderick by any so-called fans causes me to wonder if this is another article dumped upon Wikipedia by someone's social media consultant. As I read this article, it's only one or two rungs up on the ladder from a total WP:PEACOCK fluff piece. Another major issue: "She was born and raised in Anchorage, Alaska where she still lives part of the time." To me, that's actually far less important than determining whether she is the daughter of Jack Roderick, as evidenced here: Martha, Selah (2007). "Circle Work: Intuitive Technology" (PDF). Retrieved May 11, 2012. My parents Jack and Martha Roderick for constant support. My sister Libby Roderick for more than I can say,

If you fail to understand what I'm getting at here, Jack Roderick spent decades as a geologist, laywer and politician based in Anchorage, and is currently regarded as an elder statesman of the Alaskan left. Something tells me that not acknowledging this relationship is leaving out something very important to explaining who Libby Roderick is today. Unfortunately, that's the situation we seem to be facing. Lots of modern-day, bottom-feeding pseudo-celebrities out there with Wikipedia articles. Lots of Wikipedia editors and readers who take an approach towards information not unlike the graphic to the left. End result, the assumption that someone like this is "notable," but a parent or grandparent who in reality is far more notable is actually deemed to be "not notable" by the community instead.RadioKAOS (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

see [1], [2] probably notable as an activist and social commentator.Dankarl (talk) 00:40, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Post-AFD[edit]

Yep. A whole bunch of people show up, literally at the last minute, to vote keep. Not one bit of effort made since then to actually improve the article, however. At least I appeared to be on target with the reference to this being the product of a social media consultant. The article's creation was that user's only contribution, which was tagged with {{advert}} a little over a half-hour later. Such tagging was fairly gratuitous, as the text of the original version carried the following legend at the bottom:

Included with permission of Lauren Bruce, Libby Roderick's manager at Turtle Island Records. www.libbyroderick.com

Heh heh heh...

Back to the Jack Roderick connection: Jack Roderick spent a year as a Peace Corps volunteer in India in 1966 and 1967. This frequently comes up as an important subject in his biography. He also recently gave a series of lectures in which he discussed his experiences there. So, if this means that Libby Roderick spent a year living in India as a child, I would think that to be an important element of her biography, too. Growing up during her teen years with her father being the mayor of what at the time was the largest municipality in Alaska by population would also be important. Furthermore, since she is the daughter of Jack Roderick, that meant that she grew up as an actual resident of Anchorage, which has long suffered from a highly transient population. Most if not all of the high schools in Anchorage are notable enough to warrant their own articles. As such, it would help to know which high school she graduated from. I'm looking at a CD copy of Thinking Like a Mountain right this very minute. The first names mentioned in the acknowledgements are Martha and Jack Roderick. This appears to go a little deeper than anything possibly constituting a WP:NOTINHERITED violation. Actually, maybe that's not the right term, since the far more notable parent in this instance is at risk of being deemed non-notable, when the correct scenario is the lack of WP:WTAF.

Libby Roderick certainly has had some staying power on the scene, but I wouldn't consider her to be all that popular amongst fans of Alaskan music. Certainly, Joann & Monte, Hobo Jim, Gary Sloan and Lulu Small would qualify as bigger names, even if they are all known predominately as bar-band musicians as opposed to "serious recording artistes."RadioKAOS (talk) 22:38, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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