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HyperTransport wrong for all Socket 939 Sempron

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I think the HyperTransport column for all the socket 939 Sempron should be 800 MHz, not 1000 MHz.

I have a socket 939 Sempron 3400+ and running PC Wizard 2006 on it shows:

 HyperTransport Frequency: 1600 MHz
 HyperTransport Clock:      800 MHz  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
 Bandwidth:                6400 MB/s
 HTT max. Support          1600 MHz

Also, at the HP/Compaq web site, the PC product specs that include a socket 939 Sempron (3000+, 3200+, 3400+, 3500+) all say under processor specs: 1600 MT/s (mega transfers/second).

S939 is specified for 1GHz HyperTransport. It's possible several vendors supply their system with slower HyperTransport settings than specified. --Denniss 10:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Based on your input I (the initiator of this issue) contacted HP Total Care. They gave this response:

  I would like to inform you that your S939 motherboard supports system bus speed up to
  2000MT/s.  If the PC reports less than the maximum system bus speed then the reason for
  this is the processor installed on the motherboard.  Your PC comes bundled with the
  Sempron (Palermo) 3400+ 2.0 GHz which supports a system bus speed of 1600 MT/s.

Maybe instead of a revert war, y'all should discuss a compromise. Personally, the DDR rate with the footnote about it being the DDR rate seems fine to me. It's the rate the CPU speaks to the NB. Whats wrong with that? SchmuckyTheCat 20:00, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thing is, he already tried something like this on the Pentium M page, and was confronted on the talk page there. He refused to listen to reason, and he refused to cite his sources even though the person he was arguing with (not me; I only joined in at the very end) cited multiple sources. He only stopped posting/editing when someone edited the page to include both frequences side-by-side. I actually kept that in mind when I made the edits that set off this whole thing, by mentioning the fact that the bus is DDR in a footnote, which is the closest thing I can do to what was done in the P-M page without cluttering up the table. For the record, I wouldn't have minded using the maximum bandwidth (in MB/s) instead of a frequency--that was a legitimate attempt at compromise, which he reverted. Also, Hz simply means one of anything per second. There are, in the case of the Socket A Sempron, 333 million transfers made over the FSB per second, something that's far more important than the frequency of the square wave itself.
Is it so hard for you to actually read the Front side bus article ? Even if the FSB does 333 million transfers per second but that does not make him run at 333 Mhz ! Use 166 MHz or FSB 333 but nothing else because it's wrong !!! --Denniss 20:01, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
Hz can be used for any regularly occuring event. There are regularly 333 million transfers made per second. Also, FSB 333 is a term you made up out of thin air. I have never seen any source, including the websites of any manufacturers (AMD, Intel, chipset manufacturers, motherboard manufacturers, etc.), that has used this term. You know what? I'm giving up on you. If you revert this page, or any other page regarding this subject again, I'm reporting you for vandalism. Jgp 20:16, 5 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The English language sites of CPU makers and the English trade press ALL use MHz as a measure of front side bus transactions speed. Denniss, FSBxyz may be the term used in your geographic location, but it is most certainly NOT used among the English speaking trade press, and I think you should refrain from imposing it on English language wikipedia articles. K. Eng 16:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Unlisted Sempron?

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I don't know much about processors, but I know that when I run CPU-Z on my notebook (HP Pavilion zv6000), I get the following: Name: AMD Sempron 3200+ Code Name: Winchester Brand ID: 34 Package: Socket 939 Technology: 0.09 micron Voltage: 1.150 v Family F Model F Stepping 0 Ext. Family F Ext. Model 1F Revision DH8-D0 Instructions: MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, x86-64 L1 Data: 64 KBytes L1 Code: 64 KBytes Level 2: 256 KBytes

Am I correct in assuming that I have an unlisted Sempron?

Actually, I think your Sempron is one of the Socket 939 models I added a few days ago. CPU-Z probably says Winchester because it doesn't know about your specific model (they were very quietly released, and have only been seen in HP machines, so I'm not surprised CPU-Z doesn't know about it), so it's making an educated guess at the code name. Other than that, it seems that it's the same. Well, before I say that, I should probably ask what clock speed CPU-Z is reporting. If it's 1800MHz (or in the very near vicinity--clock speeds tend to go back and forth in the span of a few MHz), then I'm 99.999% certain it's the same CPU. Jgp 04:37, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Socket 939?

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I don't think there is a Socket 939 version

--Chochopk 09:12, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See above. AMD makes Socket 939 Semprons for HP to offer in their systems, much like the HP-only "Athlon 64 3300+". The CPUs are not available for individual sale, to my knowledge. --Vossanova 20:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

s939 is coming

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/sempron-3000.html

Sempron 64 socket 754?

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I just found this line from one of the computer magasizes homepage (from pricelist): AMD Sempron 64 2500+ (Socket 754) Boxed This Sempron wiki-page says, that "2500+" is for Socket A only, what is wrong? Just wondering.... Solarius 18:35, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Check this link: http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=SDA2500AIO3BX

Sempron AM2 and CnQ

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Is there any reference to the suggestion on this page that all Sempron AM2s have CnQ? From what I've read, it's possible the AM2 line also have the same 'limitation' (if that's the correct word) in that only 1.8ghz Sempron AM2s have CnQ. N.B. If this is true note that it will be the 3200+ min to have CnQ not the 3000+ because of the different PRs. Nil Einne 18:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sempron S1 (Keene)

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There is something wrong with information provided here, or something very good with my processor - On my Sempron 3200+ i've got minimal, stable voltage at 850 mV. Could someone verify this? AFAIR the standard set minimal voltage is 950 mV (is this is what about the Voltage column?), but what about hardware capabilities (AFAIK it's theoretically posiible to take down it's minimal voltage to 800mV, on my hardware it's become unstable under 850)?

presidio/pacifca

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No note about presence or less of Presidio and Pacifica technology.

Afaik in sempron-line isn't present.. but just a note to put in evidence this, may be useful.

    88.149.169.49 18:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sempron 3200+ Socket A

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The eBay seller "assured_auctions" has among their auctions some CPUs that they say their references tell them are basically Thortons, but I asked for the OPN, and the label apparently says SDA3200DUT3D, which looks like a Thoroughbred to me. If I find out where they managed to look that up, that may serve as verification for existence of such chips. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.218.54.163 (talk) 17:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Sempron X2

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I did not find any mention of semperon x2 on Amd's website. I tried searching Rana & Brisban also. But nothing shows up. How come a series launch in March/April 2008 has no reference anywhere ?

Maybe it's for OEM only. Alinor (talk) 07:59, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just do a quick websearch and you'll find a lot of info. See [1] for example. --Denniss (talk) 12:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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