Talk:List of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated episodes/Archive 1

Episode information

If an episode hasn't aired yet, any information written about it most have a reliable source that is cited in the article. Ratemonth (talk) 01:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Explanation of my changes

OK, here's what I say:

1) Only the clues relevant to the overarching mystery should be listed (if not rename the third column to "Episode Clue" or something). Not all of Mr. E's riddles and hints are such clues (Mr. E just enjoys helping out the gang with other mysteries). For instance "gator-skinned purse from Gatosburg", "riddle from Mr. E. on the radio" and "magazine from Mr. E." are not important outside of the episodes they're featured in. Things like notes, DVDs, radio and text messages are NOT CLUES, merely means of communication between Mr. E. and the gang. Additionally "a box with a photo" is just wrong... it doesn't matter if the photo was in a box, or in an envelope, or in a hat... what matters is the photo itself and more specifically the fact that Professor Pericles was encircled. Finally not all overarching mystery clues have to come from Mr. E. For instance, Professor Pericles' cryptic warning "Beware of those close to you!" is definitely a clue that will be explained in a future episode. Also the fact that the high school yearbook was carefully hidden in the high school basement is sure to have a deeper meaning.

2) Please DO NOT SPOIL THE VILLAINS IDENTITY! This is why I removed the names of all the villains from the headers in the first place. I'm now referring to posting "Alice Carlswell". I know she wasn't really Alice Carlswell, just an unnamed girl hired by Mr. E., but it's still a spoiler so don't re-post it! It just ruins the fun of watching the episode.

3) The "short" summaries should not spoil too much. I severely chopped them and I'm happy to see that they haven't been restored. The few modifications that were made, however, were filled with mistakes and were ambiguous to anyone who hasn't seen the show so I had to correct them. Note however that I left them in, rather than just restoring my first version.

All that is my opinion on things. I have no intention of monitoring this page and reverting it when it changes. I'm not one for "edit wars" so if anyone wants to re-introduce all the notes, DVDs, radio and text messages or the identities of the villains then go ahead... I'm not touching this article again. I just think the current state is an improvement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Master Yugin (talk • contribs) 23:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I would totally have to agree with you on this giving too much information is a spoiler for those who have yet to see the episode and the clues that revolve around the main mystery should be the only clues that matter not some stupid text message or whatever that Mr. E. sends them. For those who have watched the show we all know that the main clues Mr. E gives is important to the main mystery behind Crystal Cove and I think the page should be edited back to the way you had it seeing as "SPOILERS" are really rude and make it unfair to the fans and ruin it for them. An example for a non-important clue that has nothing to do with the main mystery behind Crystal Cove is the letter from Mr. E in episode 2 its not like the diary or the picture of the original Mystery Inc. with Professor Pericles circled those all have to do with the main mystery behind Crystal Cove and yes I am being cryptic here because its not fair to spoil what the show is mainly about for those who haven't seen it and may be interested in watching the show. I think it should be reverted back to the way you had it cause what's on there now is misleading and exposes too much.

Okay, this is REALLY getting ridiculous...

Okay, what is wrong with these people?! Every single time I read through this article, there's another pointless wikilink or boldface or italics, or someone is insisting that something is a clue that is in no way relavent to the show's overarching mystery. As Yugin said above me, the clues given to the gang by Mr. E. ONLY relate to the overarching mystery, not to the individual episodes -- of course, I include every clue given to the gang by Mr. E. (and by Professor Pericles).

Anyhow, why do I have to remove so many pointless italics and boldface every time I read this article? And have these people ever heard of proper English? I haven't seen (or fixed) so many grammatical errors in one article since Honda Elysion... Black Yoshi (talk) 20:37, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Upcoming Episodes

I would really like to know why an episode is listed as Reign of Emperor Joker please...P3771 (talk) 22:33, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Probably just someone's shoddy attempt at inventing an episode of their own...these people really should try fanfiction.net... Black Yoshi (talk) 01:43, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, first of all to add to this, the new list of episodes that has been put up is inaccurate, completely inaccurate. I know for a fact that episode 15 is named "Wild Brood" not "Which Witch is Which". Second, I know that because I read it off of here and spent several hours trying to find it before I finally caught it on TV up here in Canada on Teletoon, which was where the episodes had premiered. Third, who reverted the list back to the inaccurate titles and why? Wait, don't answer that, this is Wikipedia, I forgot. I'm changing the titles back via the revert button. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.178.54 (talk) 02:16, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

The Secret of the Ghost Rig

That's the title. It's not made up. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 10:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Yahoo17, 4 April 2011

The airdates have changed. They are not going to air in April as stated by tv.msn.com, but rather they will air in May in accordance with http://www.tv.com/scooby-doo--mystery-incorporated-/show/77080/episode.html?tag=page_nav;episode Five episodes will air in May, Episodes 14, 15, 16, 17, & 18, will air on the 3rd, 10th, 17th, 24th, & 31st respectively. Yahoo17 (talk) 03:32, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Done by User:Black Yoshi. — Bility (talk) 23:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

TV.com has episode 14-19 wrong they are not part of season one they are part of season two as of the promo by Cartoon Network see below.

Irish television broadcast

Turns out RTE is well ahead of other channels - episode 22 aired earlier this week. But because I didn't see it, and because RTE doesn't know it's arse from its elbow when it comes to children's TV episode listings and never includes any episode info in them, and because nobody encoded it, I can't do anything to back up what I'm saying. What I'll just say is this: episode 22 is titled "Attack of the Headless Horror". - Chris McFeely (talk) 21:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Episodes 14-19 are Season 2 episodes

This needs to quit getting changed. There was a promo that includes clips from episode 14-19 on Cartoon Network declaring that these episodes are part of the new season of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated which means the first 13 episodes are season one and the current 14-19 are part of the new season two. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBVSVPObo08 This link shows the promo for the new season.

Season 1 has 26 episodes, production-wise. Sometimes, CN like to label returns from long hiatuses as "season premieres". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chdr (talk • contribs) 03:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Eeeeexactly. This is all just one season, and needs to be listed as such. - Chris McFeely (talk) 19:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

This show was created by Warner Bros & Cartoon Network so if Cartoon Network is posting this as new seasons they have the right to they own the rights to the show and it should be posted as Cartoon Network says it is and if they claim episodes 14-19 are season 2 then it should be respected as the own the rights to the show. Also the main wikipedia page for Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated the volume sets seperated as well if you notice the Volumes 1-3 are season 1 and Volumes 4-6 are season 2 or correctly named Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Season 1, Volume 1, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Season 1, Volume 2, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Season 1, Volume 3, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Season 2, Volume 1, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Season 2, Volume 2, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: Season 2, Volume 3. Volumes 1-2 on both sets have for episodes each and both Volume 3's have 5 episodes each. Count that together, 2 seasons, 13 episodes each also proves that season 1 only contains episodes 1-13 and season 2 contains episodes 14-26. So the episode listening needs to stop changing, thank you.

One - don't delete other people's comments. Two - there is no source cited for the titles of those DVDs, and they're not listed on Amazon. So prove you haven't just made that up to justify what you're saying here, and maybe we'll talk. For now, it goes back to the 26-episode, single-season format, becaue that's how it was made. For a recent example, Sym-Bionic Titan's last 9 episodes were also billed as a "new season" when they aired on CN, but we know they weren't, because we know 20 episodes was the original order, just as we do that 26 was the original for Scooby. It's just marketing. Some of these episodes have already aired in other countries as part of a continuous run of the show, for goodness sake. It doesn't magically become a new season because one network took forever to air it and decided to draw some more attention to it by calling it that. - Chris McFeely (talk)

One - I didn't post the DVD listings so whoever did put them on there on their own beliefs. Two - All three seasons of What's New Scooby-Doo? were 13 episodes long with a bonus holiday special episode. Ask yourselves this. What sense would it make to go and do a 26 episode season when it's predecessor didn't? (I do not include Shaggy & Scooby Get a Clue in this, never liked the show.)

Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated takes place after 13 Ghost?

In episode 20 Flim Flam and Scrappy both are shown in the beginning in the episode with the explanation as to why Fred was missing during the series. So does that mean that they are trying to say all the shows are actually connect (this is not including the live action movies or What's New Scooby-Doo?)? So is this a sequel to all the incarnations of Scooby-Doo?

Episode 20 airs June 14th on Cartoon Network.

Notice the pattern of the days that new episodes fall on it's every Tuesday. And since episode 19 premieres June 7th and they do a weekly new episode it means that Episode 20 will air on Cartoon Network on June 14th.

Episode 20's Overarching Mystery Clue

The fact that Velma figured out that Angel Dynamite is in fact Cassidy Williams and is part of the original Mystery Incorporated is an important clue due to she may or may not know what happened to the original Mystery Incorporated and what caused them to disappear. This should be posted as it is crucial to the Overacrching Mystery.

The Hex Girls link is missing

Shouldn't it be posted? And also shouldn't there be a featured songs for episode 7? The songs are "Hex Girl", "Earth, Wind, Fire and Air" & "Trap of Love".

I will post in an edit request for this - JamesAlan1986 (talk)

Episode 21 Revealed!

Episode 21 is called Menace of the Manticore. Here's my reference: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/scooby-doo-mystery-incorporated-episode-21

Edit request from JamesAlan1986, 8 May 2011

http://www.watchcartoononline.com/index.php?s=Scooby-Doo!+Mystery+Incorporated

http://www.watchcartoononline.com/scooby-doo-mystery-incorporated-episode-21

I looked into this site and it is a reliable reference seeing as it's been used on the episode listing several times and is in the references. Please post this episode. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 21:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not apart of this but if that's not a good enough reference for episode 21 then episodes 19 and 20 should be removed seeing as that site was used to reference them and add them to the list instead of say tv.com or something.

Not done. Just because a source has been used before doesn't make it reliable. Please find a better source. Thank you. ICYTIGER'SBLOOD 21:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

TV.com has it listed as well. http://www.tv.com/scooby-doo--mystery-incorporated-/show/77080/episode.html?tag=prev_episode;more JamesAlan1986 (talk) 21:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Done

Edit request from JamesAlan1986, 9 May 2011

There is no Overaching Mystery Clue in Episode 21, Manticore should be Manticore/Hot Dog Water, her real name is not revealed in the credits she's just credited as Hot Dog Water.

JamesAlan1986 (talk) 15:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Not done: You still need a source Hardy Heck (talk) 23:01, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Not trying to be mean but just cause people cant watch an episode even though its referenced into the Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated episode listings is not my fault and not fair to people like me who get stuff like this locked on us cause they think someone's gonna make up stuff even without a source and I'm sorry but I relayed that there was an episode 21 with a link that got used as a reference and then I was told it wasn't reliable, now I find that unfair and discriminating so I'd appreciate it that someone watch the episode before rejecting my edit request. Thank you.

To add on to what I said prior to if it was used as a reference before and was found reliable before then it should be reliable all the time not just half the time or no some of the time, it needs to be all the time or not at all. Thank you.

Done by JamesAlan1986 (talk) 9:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from JamesAlan1986, 9 May 2011

Will someone post these songs as featured songs in episode 7?

"Hex Girl", "Earth, Wind, Fire and Air" & "Trap of Love".

JamesAlan1986 (talk) 18:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Not done. Sorry, but since The Hex Girls are a fictional band (even though they have their own article here on WP), I don't see the point in listing their songs in a list of episodes. And by the way (looking at your above request), isn't it "Hot Dog Waiter?" Because "Hot Dog Water" just makes no sense whatsoever... Black Yoshi (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Nope it's actually Hot Dog Water cause she smells of hot dogs lol. I didn't come up with it and that's how she is actually credited in the end credits. I know it's weird. By the way if you listen to her voice it's Velma from the live action movies, isn't that cool!.JamesAlan1986 (talk) 18:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Done by JamesAlan1986 (talk) 9:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from JamesAlan1986, 11 May 2011

Here is a summary for episode 21, it's from TV.com will reference it below.

Summary: "When Mayor Jones buys online an ancient Persian temple, in order to boost business in Crystal Cove's amusement Park, "Creepy Spooky Terror Land", he never thought that that temple would come with a Manticore, a vicious mythological animal, who is been eating the park's visitors. Having no other option, he asks Fred and the gang to help him capture the beast, and while they do it, he does some snooping around, regarding the mysterious puzzle piece that the gang found in Darrow Mansion."

Reference: http://www.tv.com/scooby-doo--mystery-incorporated/menace-of-the-manticore/episode/1385329/summary.html?tag=ep_guide;summary

JamesAlan1986 (talk) 09:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Not done:TV.com is not a Reliable Source Hardy Heck (talk) 23:00, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Done by JamesAlan1986 (talk) 9:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Episode 21 needs to be left as it is

Please do not remove what I have posted it pertains to everything that has to do with the episode. Please refer to my truce/compromise.

JamesAlan1986 (talk)

Calling a truce and/or compromise!

I believe that when it comes to this article it should be okay to use a previous reference as it has been found reliable before. If someone me or otherwise uses a reference that has already been used at the very least up to 3 times then it is a reliable source. If a question arises about the episode summary or villain or Overarching Mystery Clue(s) then it should be requested that the summary and/or villain or Overarching Mystery Clue(s) be solved by having an administrator watch the episode and find out what is and isn't true before it is removed and if it is found that the summary and/or villain and Overarching Mystery Clue(s) are correct then it should remain as such, if it is found to be incorrect then it should be reverted back to its original format. Please take this into strong consideration as I am trying to follow the Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes Discuss with the other party of calling a truce or comprimise.

JamesAlan1986 (talk)

Note I posted on Episode 7.

I think it should be known that "Hex Girl" and "Earth, Wind, Fire & Air" were used in the episode and that they came from Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost because that's a cool fact for fans to know especially seeing as Flim Flam and Scrappy's statues are noted.

JamesAlan1986 (talk)

I'm sorry, but I'm just not convinced that such material belongs in a list of episodes. Perhaps in a trivia section on the show's article (even though such sections are highloy discouraged here), but not in a list of episodes. Black Yoshi (talk) 16:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

This is to Black Yoshi - This page is NOT your personal fiefdom. You cannot go around deleting everyone else's comments and notes and trying to keep it as you want it. This is a major cause of edit wars and you have been warned about this in the past. Ardalby (talk) 09:12, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that... Black Yoshi (talk) 15:36, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Removed two things

The text message from Mr. E in episode 10 and Professor Pericles' message to them in episode 23 has nothing to do with the overarching story line especially in episode 23 seeing as they talk to Mayor Jones afterwords. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesAlan1986 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the text message from Mr. E has everything to do with the overarching mystery -- "Follow the parrot." IIRC, Professor Pericles was part of the original Mystery Incorporated; his actions in Episode 10 have nothing to do with the Fright Hound... Black Yoshi (talk) 14:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, thanks for correcting my summary on episode 23, I'm not very good at summaries sometimes so I appreciate that :). JamesAlan1986 (talk) 20:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Frankly, at this point, the "clue" box is just pointless, since there are so few of them. And the "villain" box is also pretty pointless as all it serves to do is spoil the episode and nothing else. I really think we should ditch these and replace with some proper writer/director credit boxes, like most reputable episode guide pages have. - Chris McFeely (talk) 10:23, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

To Chris McFeely, I can't do anything about that personally that has to be a discussion with higher then me cause I'm not the one who's in control, I can guess the reason why they still do this is cause previous ones have, eg. the List of What's New, Scooby-Doo? episodes reveals the villains as well. As the for the "clues" they play an importance to the series overall so to include them is important to those who have watched the show and have forgotten what was revealed in the episodes prior to the new ones. So to have that section is actually a good thing in my opinion but if you want to have it changed I'd talk to a higher up person an admin or someone to that nature about it being changed. Also there is no Overarching Mystery Clue in episode 23, I'm not trying to cause an edit war I'm actually trying to keep this accurate, Professor Pericles has the puzzle piece and the warning he gave them about talking to Mayor Jones about why he had the puzzle piece they did, though Mayor Jones' explanation is questionable it's not unreasonable either. Again I'm not trying to cause an edit war, I just think it should be accurate. If this gets changed back I'm not gonna remove it again but I just think we should at least for the fans keep it as accurate as possible. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 16:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Changed My Own Note.

I changed my note on Episode 21 from "Linda Cardellini, who played Velma in the two live actions films", to "Linda Cardellini, who played Velma in the two live action theatrical films," cause it was a typo cause "live actions films" makes no sense and to post that they are the two live action theatrical films is so no one confuses them with the new live action television films. Hope that's all right. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 03:31, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Of course it's alright, JamesAlan1986; in fact, that sort of comment is exactly what the edit summary is for. Black Yoshi (talk) 14:45, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Professor Pericles' Cryptic Message In Episode 23

Here is the Conversation:

• Pericles: "Why do you think? I wanted this piece of the planospheric disk of course. I knew he would have it close, I just didn't know where. So I decided to scare it out of him."
• Fred: "Planospheric disk? But how did you know he had it in the first place?"
• Pericles: "Because dear Fred, he stole it from me a long time ago. Don't believe me? Ask him yourself."

Later on they ask Fred Sr. about it. Here is the conversation:

• Fred Sr.: "Pericles? Are you sure? Did he get the...?"
• Daphne: "Planospheric? Yeah, he said you stole it from him."
• Fred Sr.: "That's...that's absurd. We confiscated it off him years ago, when we locked him up. I felt it best to keep it here, safe. That's why I went back in for it."
• Velma: "Mayor Jones, why would Professor Pericles want that piece of the disk so badly?"
• Fred Sr: {Laughs nervously} "How should I know?...."

The rest of the conversation isn't important after that see for me that has nothing to do with the overall arching mystery clues. Mayor Jones' answer maybe questionable but it is not unreasonable, any prisoner gets their stuff confiscated from them when put in jail which is exactly where Pericles was. I'm not gonna change it back but I'll let you all decide based on this whether or not that needs to be included on there. REFERENCE: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/scooby-doo-mystery-incorporated-episode-23 JamesAlan1986 (talk) 06:58, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Please leave the note about Shaggy and Velma.

I posted that. This keeps getting deleted as it has been posted before you are not to delete that stuff as it causes edit wars. It's posted as a note for a reason. The summary has to do with the episode the note adds so fans can know something that maybe important. There is a lot of people wanting to know whether or not Shaggy and Velma are gonna get back together and as the end of Episode 22: Attack of the Headless Horror shows us it's not possible. Please do not remove this again. Also the Hex Girls link does not need to be posted on twice it's already on there so a second link is unnecessary. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 05:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC) Episode 26 Monster Revealed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.207.213.229 (talk) 13:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC) The monster in Secrets Revealed is called the Freak of Crystal Cove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.207.213.229 (talk) 13:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Episode 26

I changed it to TBA since it was recently found that imbd.com was an unreliable source as Episode 25's title was not what was posted. I hope that is okay. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 15:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Overarching Mystery Clue(s) changes I made to Episode 20 and 25

Angel Dynamite is revealed to be Cassidy Williams but she is revealed by Velma. Velma and her are the only two who know her true identity. So I added "by Velma" to "Angel Dynamite revealed to be Cassidy Williams" on Episode 20 and I added "Angel Dynamite reveals herself to be Cassidy Williams to the rest of the gang" on Episode 25, so it doesn't confuse anyone. I hope this is okay? JamesAlan1986 (talk) 04:58, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

In this case, not really -- it's simply too much and too specific information. Sure, Angel Dynamite's true identity isn't revealed to the rest of the gang until Episode 25, but the point is, the viewer knows her true identity in Episode 20, so adding in the Angel/Cassidy note in Episode 25 is basically stating the same thing twice. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 15:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

The note I added to Episode 25

I added the note: "The entire Jonny Quest crew make a cameo appearance as lab researchers for Destroido. Jonny Quest is from Hanna-Barbera Productions." I added it based on that the note left on Episode 14 which says: "An episode-long homage to the golden years of Hanna-Barbera, this installment is almost entirely animated in the same visual style as Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!. All the "sidekicks" featured are from Hanna-Barbera productions that copied the basic mystery-solving/sidekick formula that Scooby-Doo pioneered." Hope this is okay. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 05:46, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I added another note on episode 25: The Dusk book series mentioned are a parody of the "Twilight series". based off of these other notes from episodes 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, & 17. I hope this is okay. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 09:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

List of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated episodes page is getting too revealing

Me and Black Yoshi have both been discussing this on his talk page and both of us agree that this page has gotten way too revealing on certain aspects of the show certain and as such I have removed them from the page so as to keep this from being too revealing. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 05:58, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I just found this out

We can not go by the Teletoon's airdates we have to go by Cartoon Network's release dates so the episodes that have not aired yet have been hidden until they air on Cartoon Network. Please do not change this back. Please check my talk page and you will see what I am talking about. The last episode can be listed and they are still there just hidden until they air are Cartoon Network. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 10:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

This is copied from my talk page: ::::and you'll be set! Why would you want Canadian airdates for an American show? It should only have the American airdates. The 2nd page contains the other episodes. But hey, I'm headed to bed now, so if you have any more questions, I'll get to them when I wake up. CTJF83 09:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Teletoon's is a Canadian channel and they are posted on the page but no references are posted to show how and when they aired as proof, you know? JamesAlan1986 (talk) 09:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

You caught me before I left....There should only be American airdates, since it is an American show, correct? See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/How_to_write_an_episode_article#Broadcast for part of an explanation. CTJF83 09:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

OH! Well then I guess that page needs edited then and changed probably should have the unreleased episodes hidden then. I'll talk to someone and see if that can get changed. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 10:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

JamesAlan1986 (talk) 12:47, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay fine go ahead break the rules I don't care anymore do as you please even if it's against wiki rules I sit here show you proof that I didn't make this up and instead of looking and reading it you do as you please. This is cause of edit wars and people who sit here and think they own pages, I'm sitting here being nice and trying to keep us all out of trouble but if you don't wanna follow the rules you are on your own. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Grammitic Fix

I went and changed "Scooby, enraged by Professor Pericles, vows to bring the gang back together so that they can continue pursuing Pericles." to "Scooby, enraged by Professor Pericles, vows to bring the gang back together so that they can continue pursuing him." on Episode 26 as it's grammatically incorrect to say "Pericles" twice and more grammatically correct to say "him" as Pericles was the reason why Scooby was enraged and vows to bring the gang back together to pursue him. I hope this is okay. Also I was the one who added the TV Guide.com references back on the 13th as references to the airdates that the episodes have or will air on Cartoon Network. I was able to make them more what they should be like on Wikipedia terms and I hope that this is okay. JamesAlan1986 (talk) 12:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Article "List of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated episodes" problems

The summaries for some of the episodes seem to be copied from other websites. Also there are a lot of exclamation points and question marks. That does not seem encyclopedic. This should be changed immediately. The tone of some of the summaries seems unlike an encyclopedia. This article needs to be fixed. There are a lot of issues and nothing has been done about them. Especially the small amount of references is disappointing and makes me doubt the amount of information that is true but is not referenced. One of the the things that grabbed my attention is the "Ratings (in millions)" column. There are no references to it and it is not being updated. An idea is that it could be removed. There are not many users that are contributing to this article other than me. Personally, I am not good at writing simple but informational summary without putting too much detail into it. I hope someone helps contribute as soon as can be done. So if you are going to help please do it very soon. Please pay attention to the main problems and get to the smaller ones later. This article needs a lot of work done on it, so please help. This article is very poor quality to what Wikimedia and Wikipedia expects articles to be of quality. I think some of the information on this page has been copied and pasted. So please, help fix the multiple issues this article has. Thank you if you helped improve this article. Furtie fert ferts (User talk) 03:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I can't help you there the small contributions I made with adding the summary on episode 26 which I wrote out myself and had Black Yoshi help me with. I also am the one who put the references for the dates in on the page so they were acknowledged. I cannot tell you anything more from there I do not know how to help this any better. It's not that easy either. Many of us who have tried to contribute to this have gotten our edits removed several times. In fact the List of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated episodes has in fact had a lot of edit wars because of it. Sorry I can be of little help here. I won't touch this page again or change anything for this reason. I will only add the reference for the air dates that's it. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 06:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: I did some changes to it including correcting the Overarching Mystery Clue(s) and taking what shoudl not have been in there and adding them to the notes instead as well as adding that certain things are only revealed to the viewer so as not to confuse people and make it sound like the gang knows who for example Mr. E is. They have yet to find out who he is it is only revealed to the viewer not the gang and as such does not really play an important part in the Overarching Mystery Clue(s). I added to the Overarching Mystery Clue(s) in "A Haunting in Crystal Cove" that Pericles reveals to the gang that the puzzle piece is part of the planospheric disk, which makes it an Overarching Mystery Clue(s) and makes it correct and accurate. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 12:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Please help!

Please, please, please keep episodes 24-26 hidden for now. Someone is vandalizing the main page and posting the series as a returning series and it is still currently airing in the US and whoever is doing it is not referencing any source and I have reason to believe they are doing it because of this page. Please keep them hidden until their airdates for now to keep the vandalism on the main page to a minimum. Thanks! JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 07:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Uh, what? Why on earth should information be hidden until the American air-date, especially as it has aired elsewhere? If you look at other episode articles, such as Phineas and Ferb, So Random!, or Bucket & Skinner's, they all at least have the TITLES. The way the article appears now is as if 25/26 don't exist. I can understand not having a summary, but you should at least list them. --JKaizer (talk) 03:26, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

That's because the summaries for both episodes were already added because they aired on a Canadian station called Teletoons. This has been a topic of discussion for awhile now and it's has been agreed upon by many of us who have contributed to this page that as of right now they remain hidden as to not remove other people's contributions and to stop the vandalism on the main page. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 08:46, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Then hide the summaries, not the entire episode. Like I said, it looks as though 25 and 26 do not exist, and that there is an error up top where it lists the number of episodes. I personally use Wikipedia as a reference of when a new episode is gonna be airing, and if the episode isn't even in the list -___-

And uh, I see like 90% you here on the talk page. Not very many other people. --JKaizer (talk) 02:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

There's User:Black Yoshi, User:Furtie fert ferts who are the major contributors other then myself who I have talked to about this and the 3 of us agreed on it, I also talked to some other ones but I can't remember their names at the moment. And if you know how to hid the summaries be my guest and hide them. I don't know how to do that. I'm still new to this. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 05:07, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

There's also the problems of the Overarching Mystery Clue(s) which also have been added to it due to it airing on Teletoons. It's just easier to hide the episode till it airs due to how the table is setup. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 05:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Two things here

1. DO NOT REMOVE LINKS! This is vandalism. The wikilinks are there for a reason to link people to the other pages about the subject. I do not know who removed the link for The Hex Girls but please do not remove it again. 2. I posted the Note in episode one based off of these other notes from episodes 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, & 17 and the one I posted later on which is mentioned above. I hope this is okay.

Again to those who do not know please do not remove links on pages. Thank you! JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 11:37, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

New Season?

Has this show been canceled? I can not find anything about a season 2 or season 3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3771 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

It is really unknown when the next season'll air fans of the show have been speculation August then moving it to September and then to October. No official announcement has been made as to if or when the next season will air so until there is it's really unknown and fan speculations. Your best bet would be to keep an eye on the official site on CartoonNetwork.com and see if anything has been posted there. Sorry I couldn't give you more then that. JamesAlan1986 *^talk 16:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

But another season has been confirmed? P3771 (talk) 16:15, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

By what is posted on the page yes. There has been a confirmation that there is indeed a second season but information on when it will air or if it will even air at all was left unannounced. JamesAlan1986 *^talk 18:46, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I do find it a little strange that I didn't see it anywhere else. P3771 (talk) 20:32, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. This is an encyclopedia we just post what we can find on reliable sources. We don't post speculations or anything else. That's why the second season hasn't made an appearance on this page only the main article because there is a source. Other then that it's just sitting around waiting for it to air. JamesAlan1986 *^talk 15:42, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Adding episode airdates

When adding episode airdates, please provide references within the article or they will be seen as unsourced content and removed. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and such edits turn it into one. In addition, since this is an American show, only American airdates should be listed here. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 13:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The first airdate should be listed no matter where it happens - in this case season two opened in the UK before it opened in the US. Roger (talk) 17:37, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I was asked to come here and comment. So here goes. The only reference I've found for a new episode airing on June 2 in the UK is http://www.boomerangtv.co.uk/tv-guide/saturday (at 8am and 4pm). Neither tvguide.co.uk (http://www.tvguide.co.uk/channellisting.asp?cTime=6%2F2%2F2012+06%3A00%3A00+&ch=113&go=go) or Digiguide (http://digiguide.tv/programme-details/Boomerang/2+June+2012/07:00/Scooby-Doo!+Mystery+Incorporated/Childrens/) indicate whether this is a new episode and Radio Times says it's a repeat (http://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings#{%22sd%22:%2202-06-2012%2008:00:00%22}). If there is any doubt, leave it blank until Saturday. Wikipedia is not a TV guide, so why not just wait the 6 days?

Andrew, even if it is a new episode, it's no good just saying "Turner UK" and "Digiguide" in your edit summary. For all episodes, but especially for future ones you must reference the airdate. If it isn't, other editors are free to remove it. The onus is on you to reference, not for others to chase after you.

Further, anyone adding unsourced information and edit warring, on any article, will eventually find themselves blocked. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 20:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

As i said in your talk page i have no intentions of violating 3RR the only thing that is bothering me is that the user black yoshi says only american air dates can be added.

In addition, since this is an American show, “only American airdates” should be listed here. Black Yoshi

i have hiughlighted the bit ina quite for you to see the post above says it. ive no problem wiht waiting just thought since i had the information i should add itAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 22:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

You already did violate 3RR here, here and here. You guys have to come to some sort of agreement about what airdates to include. WP:TV, WP:TVE and MOS:TV doesn't specify either way. You are free to list the original airdates if they're shown outside the US first, or you can agree to choose only the US airdates because it's a US show. There are merits in either case, but it doesn't really matter as long as you all agree. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 22:54, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I was unaware i violated it, it must be the way i understand written english as i read it as if you do mroe than 3 revert you are violating 3RR but clearly i was wrongly so thank you for informing me i should really get a ban for breaking it but it wasnt intentional that why i never done a 4th revert but took the discussion elsewhere and sought advice froma wider community and more experaince users. im not bothered wether i am right or wrong i just want a conesus on it and for MOS television to update and be clear about it for the future reference. As for adding it early i didnt think ther ebe any problems with it and i thought since i said my source it would be good enough but i was wrong so i apogolise to all editors conerned :)--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 16:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

The problem is, I was informed of a discussion User:JamesAlan1986 had with User:Ctjf83 a while back where CT informed JamesAlan that since this is an American TV series, only American airdates should be included, even if the show aired elsewhere first. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 23:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I've contributed to TV articles since 2007 and never heard anything like that. It sounds like instruction creep to me. Take a look at the WP:Featured list List of Stargate SG-1 episodes. That page lists US and UK airdates, dependent on where it aired first. If it's acceptable practice for a FL, it is for a non-featured page. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 00:38, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Still, there have been problems within this article in the past, when the first season was still airing, about whether to include airdates from other countries, and general consensus back then was to focus on the U.S. airdates alone per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/How_to_write_an_episode_article#Broadcast. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 03:29, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I had already glanced through the talkpage and the history for the article and I can't see anywhere where any consensus was reached for US-only airdates. Not saying there wasn't, just that I can't see it. What I do see is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Scooby-Doo!_Mystery_Incorporated_episodes&diff=433753601&oldid=433722514, by an editor who has made 3 edits to this article, all on the same day, ordering another editor to use American airdates per MOS:TV#Broadcast. That isn't consensus. Anyways, MOS:TV#Broadcast refers to prose and not episode list tables, and there's nothing there that says only home/original country airdates should be used in an episode list. It discusses channels and networks more than anything else and advises against listing them all, like The Good Wife (TV series)#International broadcasts does.

Y'all need to decide what to do among yourselves. Consensus can change over time, and if new episodes do indeed air in the UK before the US, it is wise to see what the current consensus is regarding putting those dates as the original airdate. But a column titled "Original airdate" is expected to have the original airdate, whether it's from the home country or elsewhere. If you want to use US airdates only, have the header say "Original US airdate" or something, so readers know exactly what information they're getting. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 04:54, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be best to seek an overall consensus at WT:WikiProject Television rather than individually re-discussing the issue at every article where it might come up. BTW Movie premierres are listed globally without privileging the country of origin as movies do sometimes premiere outside their "home country" - films from all over the world premiere at major international film festivals. Roger (talk) 12:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Good idea, and you're right about movie premieres. In fact, there's an article in the Hollywood Reporter from two weeks ago about that. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 15:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I am happy to keep the online date as first date but maybe we should move it asa note because tehcincally it didnt air, and can someoen finda source for it? just vary about online epiosdes but i ddo think they should be notedAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 21:16, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Moving to wider community discussion

Taking the discussion to wider audience to gain a wider conesus on the issue, my views should not be the only ones if my views are not the conesus ill accept but i want to gaina conesus on this and have it achived for future reference for all editors. [[1]]Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 16:27, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Just to clarify the above post - the topic is at WT:WikiProject Television#Airdates. Roger (talk) 16:31, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I think only American airdates should be listed on American shows. There is rarely a reason to list other country airdates even if they preceded the American airdate, which is very rare. One good exception is a St. Patrick's Day The Simpsons episode that aired in the UK and Norhtern Ireland on St. Patrick's Day, a few days before the US, because obviously St. Patrick's Day is an Irish holiday. CTJF83 03:29, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

it isnt rare it happens a lot, and there is reason to list it it because it should be noted that the epsiode has aired before the american air date but a wider discussion nvolving air dates is taking place aboveAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 08:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I was the one Ctjf83 talked to about the airdate situation and I can vogue for what Black Yoshi says as I was originally under JamesAlan1986 before the account was blocked for being compromised. It is a US show and as such needs US airdates. Swifty*^talk 22:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

show origina means nothing the first date shoul always be listed reagardless of country or show originAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 06:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

You seem to be taking this too literally. Saying that the country of origin means nothing is like saying why produce the show in Country X if it isn't even going to premiere there? Regardless of if the second season doesn't premiere in the U.S. until July, or until September, or until the year 2035, the U.S. airdate must be included in a U.S. list of episodes, even if the airdate for international premieres is included as well. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 12:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Black Yoshi i am not saying not to list the us airdate as it is as important as the first air date just that to many editors think that the show origin air date is all that matter and most show are from teh us so it like saying this is americna wikipedia, i want to list the american and itnernational first broadcast regardless of if that the uk or tim buck tooAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 13:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Right -- my misunderstanding, sorry. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 13:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Episode 27

It either needs to be hidden or the US airdate of the Cartoon Network video needs to be placed. Isn't it a bit weird that there is a summary but no airdate if the episode has not aired, which it has why is there no airdate? Swifty*^talk 22:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Never mind found a source. Swifty*^talk 22:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, but let's move the online airdate to an episode note when the episode airs in the U.S., okay? Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 02:27, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough bud :) Swifty*^talk 21:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)