Talk:List of United States extradition treaties
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Error check
[edit]Can someone check the dates for El Salvador and Honduras? I don't believe 2011 and 2028 (respectively) are correct. BrianRaker 08:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Cuban relations
[edit]This page is incorrect, as it lists Cuba as having an extradition treaty with the US. This may have been true in the past, but not since the 50s.Dwolsten —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC).
- The extradition treaty between the US and Cuba remains in force. It has never been denounced by either country.
- However, extradition is handled through diplomatic channels. Cuba and the United States of America have no diplomatic relations. Any discussion of extradition (see below for hijackers) between Cuba and the US is handled through mutually agreeable third countries' diplomats.
- Thus, while the extradition treaty between Cuba and the US remains in force, it is not routinely enforced. Cuba generally reserves the right to refuse to extradite for political crimes by a highly inclusive definition issued in 1972 that denounces the US more than it does crimes - except for the hijacking of airliners. Cuba generally will extradite aircraft hijackers. Nothing else is assured.
- I would like to propose that we mark extradition treaties between the US and countries with which we have no diplomatic relations with a "dagger" or "asterisk" to show that while the treaty in question may never have been denounced, it's not likely to be enforced routinely, either. loupgarous (talk) 03:22, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
France?
[edit]Ostensibly, Roman Polanski (detained in Switzerland on a 30-plus year-old warrant) lived in France because it does not have an extradition treaty with the USA; the list indicates France has such a treaty, an apparent error since Polanski's residence in France was common knowledge. The cited resource (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00003181----000-notes.html) is apparently incorrect. <comment added by Wireflight; 03:45 AM CST 28 September 2009>
- France's extradition treaty with the USA is well documented, whereas your suggestion that it does not exist is not. Qemist (talk) 12:59, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- He is also a French citizen, which I assume confers special rights under any such treaty. Jaydub99 (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, that's an interesting point. I would expect a "major" country like France to have an extradition treaty with the United States. But then why wasn't Mr. Polanksi extradited? What "special rights" do French citizens have that allow them to avoid extradition to the U.S. on child molestation charges? And if such "special rights" exist, then does that not raise the question of whether France really does have an extradition treaty with the U.S. after all?
- Can you enlighten us, Jaydub? Captain Quirk (talk) 13:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
- I guess should watch more pages when I comment! LOL. Under [1], you'll see the following statement: "Own nationals: Some countries, such as Austria,[8] Brazil,[9] the Czech Republic,[10] France,[11][12] Germany,[13] Japan,[14] the People's Republic of China,[15] the Republic of China (Taiwan),[16] Russia,[17] Switzerland[18] and Syria[19] forbid extradition of their own nationals. These countries often have laws in place that give them jurisdiction over crimes committed abroad by or against citizens. By virtue of such jurisdiction, they prosecute and try citizens accused of crimes committed abroad as if the crime had occurred within the country's borders (see, e.g., trial of Xiao Zhen)." That's all I was referring to. Jaydub99 (talk) 17:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
France does not, under any circumstances, extradite her citizens (at least to outside the reach of the European Arrest Warrant). --MushroomCloud (talk) 07:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Draft
[edit]Does extradition include draft-dodgers?Cameron Nedland (talk) 03:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Our article on Draft Evasion includes an entire section on Canada's handling of men evading the US military draft.
- The pertinent part of that article says:
- "During the Vietnam War, 30,000 of the 210,000 Americans accused of dodging the draft left the country. Those deserters and draft evaders combined went to Canada.[11] Though their presence there was initially controversial, the Canadian government eventually chose to welcome them. Draft evasion was not a criminal offense under Canadian law."
- However, evasion of the military draft/"national service" is a crime in many other nations, and might well be extraditable. A lot depends on whether draft evasion is on a list of specific offenses in an extradition treaty between the draft evader's country and the nation harboring the draft evader.
- Desertion from the military is an entirely separate issue. During the Vietnam War, several of our NATO allies, including the United Kingdom, France, and Canada, had laws against desertion from their own militaries but declined to prosecute or extradite deserters from the US military. Canada reserved the right to prosecute US military deserters but in practice chose not to do so. This point is described more fully in our article on Draft Evasion loupgarous (talk) 14:21, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Meanings
[edit]What does:
- L - List treaty
- DC - Dual criminality treaty
Actually mean? How are these different to the other types of treaty? It needs to be explained if these annotations are being used on this page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.17.232 (talk) 10:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Congo
[edit]Entered into force entry with a date of "May 19, 2029" seems to be wrong and should possibly read 1929. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.149.143.202 (talk) 09:47, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
- Corrected. --FeralOink (talk) 19:03, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
TIAS?
[edit]What's it mean? There should probably be a legend floating right so people can see what the acronyms mean. — -dainomite 08:13, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed! I took care of that. It is now defined, and a reference added. --FeralOink (talk) 19:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! You are awesome. Cheers, — -dainomite 19:16, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
No extradition treaty?
[edit]A more interesting list would be a list of those countries that do not have an extradition treaty with the US with notes on which countries have done recent extraditions even without a treaty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.136.32 (talk) 23:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
De facto and de jure agreements
[edit]This list currently assumes that all who have a treaty will extradit convicts if requested. But it's more complex than that. Take this:
I will make a larger point about what happened in Hong Kong. We are deeply disappointed by the decision of the authorities in Hong Kong to permit Mr. Snowden to flee despite a legally valid U.S. request to arrest him for purposes of his extradition under the U.S.-Hong Kong Surrender Agreement. We’ve registered our strong objections to the authorities in Hong Kong as well as to the Chinese Government through diplomatic channels, and we’ve noted that such behavior is detrimental to U.S.-Hong Kong and U.S.-China bilateral relations.
...
For us, we’re just not buying that this was a technical decision by a Hong Kong immigration official. This was a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive despite a valid arrest warrant. And that decision, as I said, unquestionably has a negative impact on the U.S.-China relationship.
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And then, though the Privacy Act prohibits me from talking about Mr. Snowden’s passport specifically, I can say that the Hong Kong authorities were well aware of our interest in Mr. Snowden and had plenty of time to prohibited his travel. So they were well aware. Clearly, the Department of Justice can provide you more granularity on the day-by-day actions we took in terms of sharing information with them, including some of the public information that’s available.[1]
Do we make any distinctions here? Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 21:22, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
old treaties
[edit]it's a bit unclear to me if this should also include previous treaties that are no longer in force. For example, I notice that in the treaty with the Netherlands it is explicitely referring to two previous treaties that will no longer be in force because of that newer treaty. For historical purposes, recording those would be interesting though. For this list it would be helpful to at least make an explicit choice. effeietsanders 19:21, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
All links are Dead
[edit]IDK if people have seen it but all the links in the List are Dead, can someone replace them with updated ones? Qutlooker (talk) 23:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Death penalty
[edit]some countries (e.g. those in the European Union) will not extradite anyone to the US if the person would be subject to the death penalty. Ira Einhorn is an example. 24.206.70.40 (talk) 19:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)