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Merge with List of Wonder Woman enemies and List of characters in Wonder Woman (TV series)[edit]

There is no reason for there to be three separate lists of Wonder Woman characters. The enemies in Wonder Woman are still Wonder Woman characters and the television series list only includes characters that are already included on the other two lists. Together, these three lists would make up one reasonably sized article. As such, List of Wonder Woman enemies and List of characters in Wonder Woman (TV series) should be merged here. Neelix (talk) 13:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree that the inother media section was small enough for a merge, the list of enemies was a fairly large list. And as most other major comics characters have them split (for ease of use for our readers), this really should be undone.

Unless there is a clear reason for the merge that I'm not seeing, I'll likely be bold later and undo the merge. - jc37 17:33, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with individual character articles[edit]

While many Wonder Woman characters are sufficiently individually notable to justify their own articles, there are also many that are not. As such, the following articles should be merged here: Mother Juju, Orana (DC comics), Sofia Constantinas, Antiope (DC Comics), Ed Indelicato, Micah Rains, Mike Schorr, Aegeus (comics), Captain Wonder (DC Comics), Morgana (comics), Mouse Man, Minister Blizzard, Draska Nishki, THEM! (comics), Duke Dazam, Mona Menise, Anti-Electric, Lya, Badra (comics), Tigra Tropica, Ironsides (DC Comics), and Anton Unreal. Neelix (talk) 00:49, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would disagree with roughly half of those.

So how about this as a start: Look for the ones who only had a single appearance (single issue or story arc). If they have subsequent appearances which could suggest re-splitting per WP:SS, then we can deal with that in the future. But definitely not some (like Antiope) who have appeared in comics for decades. - jc37 02:57, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

THEM! (comics), Duke Dazam, Mona Menise, Anti-Electric, Lya, Badra (comics) and Tigra Tropica are all one-shots without subsequent appearances. Are you saying that you agree that these should be merged? Neelix (talk) 15:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Taking each one:

THEM! desperately needs a re-write to bring it into real world focus. The section under "controversy" with information from the original author would be the way to go with that. Drop a note at WT:CMC and I'm sure they'd be happy to help.
Duke Dazam should be merged two ways, both as part of the list, and also, due to the real-world implications of this apparently being the first appearance of the "multiverse" in what was to be DC Comics, at least some of the info should be merged in that general direction as well (I know we have some articles on this, I'll look later.)
Lya should be merged to the list and to Duke of Deception. With the redirect pointing to the duke.
mona, anti-electric, badra, and tigra should go to the list.
And honestly, I would guess several more of the above could be merged to the list as well: mother juju, Ed Indelicato, Micah Rains, mouse man, and anton unreal.
Morgana has the morgan le fay/fey problem, in that DC has had several versions, and not all were related, except by name. I think merging this, as the "Wonder Woman version" is probably the right thing to do. (both to enemies, and "in other media".
Ironsides (DC Comics) to Doctor Psycho and to the list.
Though at first glance, aegeus and sofia might be merge candidates, aegeus was used in the recent, much hyped, WW #600, so we should probably hold off on those for now. Though a merge/redirect of sofia to the aegeus page might be a decent idea.

The rest should be kept. - jc37 17:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Though her appearances are few, I believe Antiope as a character is very important to the Amazons and should remain individual. Her history to Hippolyta and the Amazons of Bana-Mighdall puts her in a class of her own. Artemisboy (talk) 18:15, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With the undoing of the merge with the enemies list, I adjusted the mergeto templates for each list. - jc37 19:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have completed the merges we both agree should take place. You suggested WT:CMC might be able to re-write THEM! (comics) to demonstrate the individual notability of the group. The only editor who responded to the note placed there stated that there doesn't seem to be enough sources. Would you object to the article being merged into the enemies list? As for Duke Dazam, you state above that the article should be merged, but you removed the corresponding merge tags. You also mentioned that you plan on looking for other articles to which it should be merged; have you found any? With respect to Aegeus (comics) and Sofia Constantinas, what can be gained by waiting? If sufficient coverage in reliable secondary sources cannot be found at the present time, they should not have individual articles at the present time. I have searched am not convinced that there is sufficient coverage in reliable secondary sources of Orana (DC comics), Mike Schorr, Minister Blizzard, and Draska Nishki. Do you know of such coverage? If not, they should be merged into this list. I agree that Antiope (DC Comics) and Captain Wonder (DC Comics) should remain unmerged. Neelix (talk) 01:05, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, first: A merge is more than just blanking, creating a redirect and delinking. When I have some more time later, I'll see about finishing those merges. If you would like to help in the meantime, it would be most welcome. - jc37 03:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merging is only more than redirecting when sourced information is contained on the article being merged. The majority of these merged articles consist entirely of unsourced information. According to Wikipedia policy, "any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed." Neelix (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reliable source in this case is the primary source. As long as no interpretation of the primary source is done (without secondary sourcing), it's fine to include based upon that. - jc37 21:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]