Talk:List of conflicts in the United States

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Conflicts?

This page should be about actual wars and battles, not civil unrest/riots like:

1859 John Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry, Virginia

1917 Green Corn Rebellion - A socialist uprising in Oklahoma. Helped to fuel the Red Scare.

1921 Tulsa race riot - massacre during a large-scale civil disorder in Tulsa, Oklahoma

1921 Battle of Blair Mountain - in Logan County, West Virginia, between 10,000 and 15,000 coal miners confronted state and federal troops in an effort to unionize the southwestern West Virginia mine counties

1995 - Oklahoma City bombing, a terrorist attack aimed at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, a U.S. government office complex in downtown Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The attack claimed 168 lives and left over 800 injured.

Thus I have removed these events from the page. If these are to be classed as conflicts, why not add the Rodney King Riots, or the Watts riots, or the Seattle WTO riots? TuckerResearch (talk) 00:58, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these do belong. For instance, if the Mormon war entries belong (and they do, in my opinion), so does the Waco Siege. I'd say that Blair Mountain and the Green Corn Rebellion also belong. Whateley23 (talk) 22:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Waco Siege does not belong. It does not fit with the rest of the entries, as it was not part of an actual war, a "foreign" enemy (apologies to Confederates and Native Americans, of course), and the numbers involved were quite small. If it is added, then urban riots must be added. They should be - to some other list. But not this one. Prlambert76 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:13, 1 November 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Sept 11?

I think of a "conflict" as when both sides take up arms against each other. I don't think this happened on Sept 11. It is an attack, but not a conflict. Bubba73 (talk), 03:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I'll remove it. Whateley23 (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorist acts

When I created this article I specifically stated that MAJOR TERRORIST ACTS were acceptable to be on the list. No, September 11 was not a "conflict" between two opposing sides but it is one of the most notable events in American history so please leave it alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.129 (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

However, being a "notable event" doesn't make it a "conflict". I don't think that it belongs under an article of this title. Otherwise, why not add the Kent State shootings, the John F. Kennedy assassination, or Ruby Ridge, all of which are also notable? Whateley23 (talk) 22:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

16th century?

There was no United States at that time. In fact, the nation known as the United States didn't exist until 1776 (or 1789 if you go by form of government). The article should be trimmed to reflect that or the name should be changed.Chuck Hamilton (talk) 08:27, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree this list shouldn't include anything before the American Revolutionary War. I'm removing those wars before 1775, somebody can re-add them again if they want to move this article to a more practical name but I struggle to think of one.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 19:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Had an idea, I am now creating a new article List of conflicts in British America which could cover everything up to 1783 when the United States formally left the British Empire. Its a little dubious as to what territory exactly constituted British America, but it hopefully should work.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 19:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete pre-1776 entries

I created this article with the intention of including any and all conflicts that occurred on present-day United States soil, before and since its founding in the 1770s. To delete any pre-Revolutionary conflicts is like saying history didn't happen till 1776 or that anything that occurred on present U.S. soil didn't matter! I can guarantee any American history class you've ever taken didn't start at 1776, it started much earlier than that. In short, leave the article the way I wrote it!

Creating the article doesn't give you any right to dictate the content of it - see Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. The pre-1775 stuff hasn't been deleted as such, but moved to a seperate article which is linked at the top of the page. I'm not an American, so I haven't taken an American history class - what is taught in one isn't particularly relevant to the construction of this article. For the pre-1775 stuff see List of conflicts in British America.Lord C (talk) 18:59, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. I quit. I'm done with this crappy site. I'm sick of creating articles that get butchered by other people so this will be my last entry to wikipedia and probably the last time I even access the site at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.129 (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. For what it's worth I did take the time and trouble to look at both your POV and Lord Cornwallis' POV, look at the page itself and I personally thought that the way it is currently works best. I see from your edits you've been a major contributor - a shame to lose you. Then again, you'll only ever be frustrated if you want to hold out for having your articles maintained the way you want them. It just doesn't work that way. Ah well. David T Tokyo (talk) 15:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

21st Century

I can't think of any notable conflicts on US soil yet this century. If someone else can, please feel free to add it to the list. Whateley23 (talk) 22:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should Fort Hood be included as a conflict involving the US? More of an incident than a conflict Latibulate (talk) 04:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of this page is suffering from semantics, but under the common definition of the term "conflict" and it's usage in modern parlance, in this context, Fort Hood, 9/11, and any terrorist acts are not conflicts and are irrelevant to this article. Fort Hood was a shooting, an incident, a massacre - and thus it is rightly placed here. Following the logic of including it on this page, you'd have to equally include listings of every school shooting, etc. Heck, if a shooting is now a conflict, why not include every homicide report seen on the 11 o'clock news? What elevates Fort Hood to the level of "conflict" any more than those?

Keeping in the same vein, generally speaking, terrorist attacks are not applicable, either. Flying a plane into a building is murder & genocide - there was no opportunity for conflict. Conflicts in the sense of this article require multiple opposing factions struggling against each other for a specific duration. Even as it is, the article itself embraces too vague and non-specific a concept, and the info would have better been divided up into more specific subset articles such as "List of Battles", "List of Massacres", "List of Rebellions/Riots", etc. You may as well have called it "List of Fights and other General Disagreements" for all the specific relevance it carries. Regardless, I've removed the above-mentioned events from the timeline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.103.134 (talk) 10:40, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After WWII

The article lacks anything after WWII. Where is Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Gulf War, Afghanistan, Panama, et al.--Dstern1 (talk) 14:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I'm aware none of those conflicts took place on the territory of the United States. This is a list of conflicts fought in the United States, not conflicts the United States was involved with. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 11:39, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Midway

Why aren't the battles at Midway or Wake Island included in this? They are both American soil/territory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Super5000ify (talk • contribs) 15:47, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think I will include the Battle of Muddy Flat on here, but I will wait a bit to see what others think.

The Battle of Muddy Flat started as an attack on the American Concession (Shanghai) and the British Concession (Shanghai), which were both colonies of their respective countries. Historyguy1138 (talk) 19:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]