Talk:Long March (Pakistan)

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A fact from Long March (Pakistan) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 March 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the government of Pakistan signed the Long March Declaration on 17 January 2013, allowing Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri to help decide upon a caretaker Prime Minister?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2013/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Long March (Pakistan).

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I put an arrow to show the march going from Lahore to Islamabad, instead of just listing the two cities (it did cross other villages, etc). Feel free to fix that if need beLihaas (talk) 23:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edits explained

"Alleged corruption" is "Corruption" because the initiator of the protest did not cite its "allegation," he cited corruption. Further, a court ruling of corruption is not alleged, its convicted. (hence gilani's resignation and ashraaif's charge too)
"self-imposed exile" is in the source. Not verbatim, cause thats copyvio. It says he left for canada after his disillusionment with the political system and acquired citizenship there. What does exile mean? And he wasnt forced out. WP:COMMONSENSE
We dont overref every single sentence. Without intermediate refs the next one is sourced. there is no OR here.
copyvio, we dont copy verbatim. Words are synonmous.Lihaas (talk) 04:04, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

POV statements, in my opionion. Just quote verbatim if you think you are right. Best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What is pov?

You also cant keep quoting as this is not a quotefarm while it would also violate WP convention of copyvio (which is a hard and fast policy)

Lihaas (talk) 04:53, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, dear Lihaas, every statement that is potentially controversial (ie which is dividing or likely to divide editor opinions) needs a reliable and neutral (third-party) source. I also feel strongly about upholding the Wikipedia policy which states that references which do not actually support the claims attributed to them should be removed, or the text should be changed to conform to the sources. POV means "Point of view". Best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 05:10, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PS, dear Lihaas, let's take care that neither of us unintentionally initiates an edit war or violates Wikipedia's three-edit rule. I thus recommend that we both desist from editing the Tahir-ul-Qadri and Long March pages while we wait to see what type of editor consensus emerges. Best regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 05:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with you on the edit changes.

Though to progress on this, can you point out specifically the instanes you disagree so we can point-by-point come to a conclusion. I listed 4 pts above. Your reply to each would help. ThanksLihaas (talk) 06:53, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You seem also not to be familia with WP as this is not a "cpy edit". I dont understand your tags, as everything is in the source following (which i said here). [1]Lihaas (talk) 03:21, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well Lihaas and George Custer's Sabre i am a constitutional, legal, political and philosophical analyst and researcher. I have studied and studies in the US, Pakistan, Iran, British, French and Russian systems. I have followed closely this Pakistan revolution, and i know what the truth is and what are fabricated lies. Bear this in mind when you change my edits, because i will change them back. I am a staunch believed in truth and nothing but the truth.

Hello. I hope you are well. I am not interested in your claims of expertise. I just hope you will comply with Wikipedia guidelines. Citations to reliable, authoritative, and neutral third-party sources are essential for the edits you want to make. They are necessary not because I say, but because Wikipedia says so. Wikipedia requires them. Two good sets of Wikipedia guidelines that I have found really useful can be found HERE and HERE. Best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 18:57, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok i shall fulfill these requirements George Custer's Sabre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hujweri (talk • contribs) 11:49, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

This page should be merged with 2013 Long March (Pakistan), they're both about the same exact thing! Charles Essie (talk) 00:29, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirected. The two articles were practically identic. --RJFF (talk) 18:24, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]