Talk:Luk khrueng
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Definition of a Luk khrueng
[edit]Is Tiger Woods luk kreung?
- No. According to my sources, luk kreung have to be half-Thai, half-falang. Woods isn't half anything. Markyour words 16:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Sure he is; he's half Thai, half American ("falang dam," to be exact). And the definition here simply says that a luk kreung's parents are of different races. Exitr 03:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- No, because his parents were not whole anything. Markyour words 10:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
And who is whole anything? Except for a few isolated pockets of genetic homogeneity, everyone is a hybrid. And again, the definition says parents of different races, not of two individually "pure" races. Exitr 17:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- No, everyone is not a hybrid. Luk Kreung means half white, half Thai. Capiche? Sorrowek 05:48, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Someone (probably me) wrote the definition as a rough guide to the meaning- it's not an official definition suitable for deep analysis. As far as 'wholeness' goes, the concept of the luk krueng is a product of Thai racial prejudices, and by definition illogical. Looking for reasonable definitions or rationales will get you nowhere. Markyour words 17:26, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
2009
[edit]The proper spelling is Luk Kreung. The second character in the second word is pronounced as K, not KH in this word.
Please change it back. The article title previously was correctly spelled.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.137.71.253 (talk) 13:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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Usage of 'Luk Chin'
[edit]Literally never heard of Luk Chin for half-Thai half-Chinese? According to the linked Thai Chinese page, it was used for the cases of early Chinese immigration. If so, it feels like its fallen out of modern usage, having since been eclipsed by the wider ไทยเชื้อสายจีน. Should be contextualized as a historic term, or provide additional context if its still in use in certain circles (that I'm unaware of), or removed entirely I think. AiSard (talk) 17:02, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- It still sees use in the formulation of the ลูกจีนรักชาติ luk chin rak chat concept in political circles. It was most recently popularised by Sonthi Limthongkul during the People's Alliance for Democracy protests I think, and is still the subject of current debate. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:30, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
That's a much more narrow usage then, compared to the more popular/everyday ไทยเชื้อสายจีน. Contextually, the paragraph this belongs to is talking about the general colloquial usage, so will go ahead and edit that. If anyone can substantiate/argue that ลูกจีน sees enough colloquial use that it should be tacked on, feel free to. AiSard (talk) 02:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)