Talk:M16 rifle

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M3 bipod[edit]

It seems to me that the paragraph on the XM3 bipod is wholly incorrect.

I have an FM 7-7 document from 1985 which mentions that the M16A1 can be used from the bipod, and a M16A1 manual from 1983 which mentions the M3 bipod, suggesting the bipod design has left the experimental stage and was actually adopted (Hence the M instead of XM).

Since there is no citation for the paragraph, I believe it should be changed.

Thom430 (talk) 21:55, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Sure, correct it based on your sources and cite the source(s) in reference brackets (<ref> </ref>). Thanks -Fnlayson (talk) 22:18, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
I've changed the M3 bipod section, any criticism is more than welcome Thom430 (talk) 18:32, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

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Accuracy[edit]

I have some issues with the accuracy section:

The M16 rifle is "accurate beyond description".[100] where the quoted source reads "The M16 makes a man a crowd, allowing him to lay down a fantastic 100 to 120 rounds per minute, providing he can change the 20 or 30-round magazine that fast. Accurate beyond description - a soldier 300 yards away can get an endless grouping in a foot-square target - the M16 fires a .223 cartridge."

I find this to be a bit sensationalist. Never mind the fact that 100 to 120 rounds per minute figure is a bit misleading - this can't be done indefinitely - the M16 is by no means accurate beyond description. As the Kjellgren paper points out, it achieves 4.3 inches at 100 metres, much like the G3. This figure seem to hold true to this day, as the M16A4 has an MoA of 4.5 inch, as per a relatively recent Marine Corps Times article: http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2015/02/16/deadlier-rifles-and-ammo-may-be-on-the-way/

Then, on to the next: "They are also more accurate than their predecessors and are capable of shooting 1–3 inch groups at 100 yards."

Again, this is in contradiction to the Kjellgren paper used in the table, and the Marine Corps article. Is a free-floated civilian AR-15 capable of 1 MoA or below? Yes, absolutely. Is a military issue, mass-produced and worn M16, with non-free floated barrel? Not so much.

Thoughts?

Thom430 (talk) 17:22, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

But in real life, accuracy is quantifiable.[edit]

"Accurate beyond description"? C'mon, that's standard mechanoporn exaggeration, PM and PS have to sometimes be toned down a bit. Anmccaff (talk) 19:22, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

M16a4 weight?[edit]

M16a4 unload weight 3.26kg but full m16 weight 3.99 kg while 30 rounds 5.56 only .36kg and full magazine just .48kg. Mistake or something else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.245.11.141 (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2017[edit]

is there a coversion that should be conversion? 2605:E000:9161:A500:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 15:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sakura Cartelet Talk 15:57, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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