Talk:Mary Ann Sainsbury

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In response to the proposed deletion of this Mary Ann Sainsbury article due to:

"Notability is not inherited."

I would like to say that I believe that Mary Ann Sainsbury is a relevant article. Although most people consider John James Sainsbury to be the sole founder of Sainsbury's, especially as the shops displayed 'J. SAINSBURY.' and the Company was incorporated as 'J. Sainsbury Ltd.', the Company's website and The Sainsbury Archive (and Company brochures) insist that this was not the case. John James and Mary Ann Sainsbury reportedly set up a partnership, until their eldest son, John Benjamin Sainsbury, went into partnership with his father in 1915. Mary Ann was instrumental in making Sainsbury's stores clean, accompanied John James on store visits, and her father's grocery chain, Staples, was, in effect, sold to Sainsbury's, where the Watney Street, Stepney, branch was the first to trial round-the-back deliveries, now the norm for all major, large shops. In addition, the Sainsbury family are a very prominent and influential dynasty in the UK. With regards to references for the information, as John James Sainsbury was the driving force behind Sainsbury's, the best place for information on Mary Ann Sainsbury is The Sainsbury Archive.

LRB2000 (talk) 10:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, and have removed the prod tags. I must say that I'm shocked by the fact that two editors thought that this was an uncontroversial candidate for deletion. It may have been usual in the nineteenth century to attribute a woman's achievements to her husband, but I thought that we had moved on from those attitudes. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:44, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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