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Albums[edit]

"Album matrix numbers are often similar to the catalogue number." This varied by the record label; whilst some were similar, on some labels there was no relation at all. Consider these releases within the EMI group labels:

The Beatles Please Please Me, Parlophone PCS 3042, matrix nos. YEX 94, YEX 95
Manfred Mann The Five Faces of Manfred Mann, His Master's Voice CLP 1731, matrix nos. 2XEA 2575, 2XEA 2576
Pink Floyd The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Columbia SCX 6157, matrix nos. YAX 3419, YAX 3420
Queen Queen, EMI EMC 3006, matrix nos. YAX 4623, YAX 4624

Similar things happened at Decca:

Chris Barber's Jazz Band and Skiffle Group New Orleans Joys, Decca LF 1198, matrix nos. DRL 2266, DRL 2267
The Rolling Stones The Rolling Stones Decca LK 4605, matrix nos. XARL 6271, XARL 6272

In the case of EMI, they changed systems some time between 1978 and 1980:

Queen Jazz (Nov 1978), EMI EMA 788, matrix nos. YAX 5550, YAX 5551
Queen The Game (Jul 1980), EMI EMA 795, matrix nos. EMA 795 A, EMA 795 B

nb none of these are reissues (where a new catalogue number might inherit old matrixes) - they are genuine originals, except for that Beatles, but that didn't change its catalogue number at all as a stereo vinyl release. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the article covers this. It says the matrix number is sometimes related to the catalogue number, and other times not. All the examples you give are UK editions by EMI or Decca. It's hard to say which is more common internationally, but I do agree that EMI UK changed from dissimilar to similar numbers, and I've seen examples from earlier than 1978. Do you have a proposal for changing the article? I tried to avoid giving too much information about specific labels, since the information may not be universal enough, and may give weight to practices by a small group of labels with higher collector interest; though I did use the external links section to point to articles in that category. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"run-off" vs. "run-out" groove[edit]

a google search for "run off groove" returns 1.25 million hits. a google search for "run out groove" returns 15.5 million hits. although i personally like the sound of "run-off" better, it would seem from the google searches that the world overwhelmingly uses the term "run-out groove". so i'm changing it in the article, because it seems like it's probably not contentious. Fp cassini (talk) 22:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are many names for it; I'll add some more for the benefit of those who have a different favourite term. A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology[edit]

Why is it called matrix numbers? Thanks, --Abdull (talk) 01:25, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Production of gramophone records. It's in the same sense as Matrix (printing) or Matrix (numismatics). --Redrose64 (talk) 16:08, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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