Talk:Matthew Elliott, Baron Elliott of Mickle Fell

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Page Title / Move

It was attempted to change the page's disambiguation from 'politics' to 'lobbyist'. While 'politics' may not be the ideal identifier, I don't think 'lobbyist' is any better, for at least two reasons - media / work history predominantly use 'campaigner' and 'strategist' over 'lobbyist' as descriptors; and lobbyist generally has a specific application in UK politics, as per the Lobbying Act 2014, which this person does not meet.

Open to suggestions but would prefer discussion here rather than unilateral moves. EardleyC (talk) 21:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 December 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved - I note the nominator moved it to lobbyist in November, if lobbyist is preferred over political strategist then there's no prejudice to speedy renomination to change that. Note that the lobbyist prefix currently redirects to the page in question. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 13:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew Elliott (politics) → Matthew Elliott (political strategist) – He's specifically a strategist. Unreal7 (talk) 00:50, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. the disambiguator "(politics)" is rarely or never used for political people, but rather for political terms, as in Whip (politics), Nativism (politics), Lame duck (politics), and others. WP:NCPDAB suggests: The disambiguator is usually a noun indicating what the person is noted for being in his or her own right. In most cases these nouns are standard, commonly used tags such as "(musician)" and "(politician)". The only general exceptions for biographies to my knowledge are for certain cases of sportspeople, where the sport itself is the disambiguator (e.g. Lee Smith (baseball)), but these titles are governed by more specific conventions than political figures, namely Naming conventions (baseball players) and Naming conventions (sportspeople). --Animalparty! (talk) 22:05, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment it might also be acceptable to move this to Matthew Elliott (lobbyist) for conciseness (WP:NCPDAB also recommends: Try also to limit the tag to a single, recognizable and highly applicable term), but I'll leave it to those more familiar with Elliott to determine which of the two occupations is more defining and appropriate. --Animalparty! (talk) 22:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support as Matthew Elliott (lobbyist) for brevity and recognisability. Ralbegen (talk) 22:18, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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