Talk:Matthias Dahms

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Composer project review[edit]

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This article was bot-assessed as B because another project (in this case Percussion), had assessed it as B. I find this article deficient, and demote it to Start. Articles about living composers can be more comprehensive than this; it is largely a promotional piece by the artist's management. Slightly more detailed commentary is on the comments page; questions or comments can be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 15:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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==Composers Project Assessment of Matthias Dahms: 2008-12-12==

This is an assessment of article Matthias Dahms by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down.

Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

  • ok

===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • No personal details. No indication of when composing started, early works.

===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • Composer is relatively young (40s). No personal details. No indication of notable collaborators during this time.

===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

  • ok

===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

  • Limited critical appreciation. Influential styles and techniques are mentioned, but not discussed in any depth. No indication of notable students or other influences on future generations yet.

===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

  • Article has an image, essentially a GFDL publicity still. No audio.

===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

  • Article references a few newspaper and journal-style articles. Minimally acceptable.

===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

  • ok

===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review===

===Summary=== This article was bot-assessed to Composer-project B-class because another project (in this case the Percussion project) had assessed it as a B-class article. I find that as a Composer biography it is deficient, and demote the Composer assessment to Start.

This article is essentially a promotional bio of a living musician/composer in his 40s. The bulk of the content was provided by the artist's management, an obvious case of WP:SELFPUB. It is possible to write more detailed and interesting articles about living composers (see e.g. Philip Glass, Pierre Boulez, and Peter Maxwell Davies); however, more notability and use of third-party materials may be necessary to achieve that. Magic♪piano 15:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 15:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 23:28, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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