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The stairstep box doesn't make a lot of sense. MiNT does not descend from TOS, though it did reverse-engineer portions. And MultiTOS seems more logical to decend from MiNT, though SpareMiNT is after my time, so maybe it's appropreate. Somegeek 20:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


Holy ebullient editors, Batman! Amazing work. If this is not all coming straight from memory, it would be great if sources could be cited along the way. Somegeek 15:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


So what exactly *is* AES then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

AES = Application Environment Services. This is the part of GEM, that is responsible for managing windows, sending messages to applications about events related to user activity (e.g. messages requesting to redraw a portion of the window, that the applications is responsible for - AES only manages the border gadgets, like closer, sliders etc.), drawing complex objects such as icons, dialog boxes, menus, and handling the user interaction with these. Mamurra (talk) 17:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but the current page confuses MINT and AES, or leaves the reader confused. MINT is described as the kernel. AES is somehow relevant to MINT, but where does AES begin and where does it end? Is AES is "everything else", including all of TOS and GEM? The AES section can answer these questions if it had an introduction. It would really help if someone edited this page from the perspective of someone loosely familiar with Atari ST, and wanting to more about this MINT thing. That perspective would be my experience (I have an old ST, but stopped using it long before this MINT/AES thing came along). (talk) 21:10, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Minor correction to the record[edit]

I don't want to make the edit because I have a COI. (I am Allan Pratt and this would be part of my biography.) Still, I thought I'd mention that Atari hired Eric Smith (at my suggestion and with my strong endorsement) before I left. I might have left "suddenly" (with the customary two weeks' notice) to join Taligent, but that opportunity arose for me during the weeks between the time Atari hired Eric and the time he relocated to California and started work. I was gone before he arrived, but they didn't hire him because I left. At least, that's how I remember it now. (talk) 02:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


just wondering ... any relation to neodesk et al? As being preceding disk-based replacements for the built in desktop, and many of it's ROM-coded sub-routines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:39, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

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Indeed the section abouut AES for Mint is clear rippoff. As it was not needed for the core of this article, I removed it. EmmanuelKasper (talk) 16:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)