Talk:Multani dialect
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[edit]It is conform that Saraiki is a language. Also Jhangvi dialect is dialect of Saraiki. This article is redundant with the Riasti dialect, Shah puri dialect,Multani dialect, Multani language, Thalochi dialect, Thalochi ,Derawali dialect articles. I suggest merging these articles , as the all these are same. And also be Redirected to Saraiki language. Kindly See these External Links
- http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=skr
- http://globalrecordings.net/en/language/16338
- http://votebits.com/sweet-and-interesting-languages-of-pakistan/
- http://www.ankarascene.com/haber/pakistan-823.html
- http://thepolyglotexperience.blogspot.com/2011/01/pakistan-language-map.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.186.4.140 (talk) 14:57, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Multani Dialect
[edit]Why to delete . lets see point by point my article asertions 1. Name derived from multan. Agreed? 2. Now considered as seprate language as Saraiki. Agreed? 3. Also considered as a dialect of Punjabi(Two Refrences added) . Agreed? 4. Area shown in the map and district links added. Agreed? 5. One of oldest in indian subcontinent. Agreed? 6. Poet Khwaja Ghulam Farid. Agreed? 7. See also. Ageed? DONT DELETE OTHERS GOOD FAITH HARDWORK PLEASE AND TAG IT AS BIASED. BEST REGARDS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saraikistan (talk • contribs) 08:58, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- There is no substantial content to the article that is not already in the Saraiki article. Also, statements that it's a "mix" of different languages are likely to be nonsense. — kwami (talk) 09:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Statements that it's a "mix" of different languages is an exact para copy of lines in the website link which is provided in references. Dont worry about new things from Saraiki article because soon i am going to fill the substances on this dialect in article supported by reliable sources from different links which are specific to dialect level and not covered in Saraiki at language level article. Its just a start so let it groom dude. Saraikistan (talk) 12:33, 4 January 2013 (UTC) Dear Saraiki language and Multani dialect are same so all these be merged. And also be Redirected to Saraiki language.Kindly See these External Links
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.186.77.7 (talk) 15:22, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Please see the classification section in the article. hope that clears every aspect and every label. ir relevant things you posted to this talk page has been deleted
Read the above line again
Nothing found in your references about changvi and shahpuri. For other 4 dialects it is necessary to keep people informed about those historic dialects sepratly which are claimed by both Saraiki as well as Punjabi people, Linguists and Political parties and difference of opinion is also found on recent international linguist research from old research so As a matter of fact, most linguists would agree. Saraiki is commonly classed as "just" a dialect of Punjabi and calling it South Punjabi is not wrong. Please see [1] for a 1305p long authoritative description of the Indo-Aryan languages. Punjabi is comprised of many dialects that form a dialect continuum. The dialects that comprise this continuum eventually merge with Hindi in India and Sindhi in Pakistan. The dialects enjoy a relatively high level of mutual intelligibility and can be differentiated slightly with respect to their lexicons. In India, the key dialects of Punjabi are: Majhi, Doabi, Malwai, and Powadhi. In Pakistan, the key dialects are Majhi, Pothohari, Hindko, and Multani. Following the work presented in Grierson’s (1905) Linguistic Survey of India, a number of Indic scholars have further divided Punjabi into two principal languages – Western Punjabi or Lahnda and Eastern Punjabi. This decision, however, is controversial and by no means reflects the majority view in Indic linguistics.[1] Modern linguists Nataliia Ivanovna Tolstaia, Lambert M Surhone, Mariam T Tennoe, Susan F Henssonow, write that in practice there is no contrast between Eastern or western Punjabi to the extent that it could be termed as such as different languages and speakers of Eastern or western Punjabi alike use same literary language that is why many Punjabi scholars are inclined to regard both as a form of single language Punjabi.[2][3] Maria0333 (talk) 14:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
References
- ^ http://www.lmp.ucla.edu/Profile.aspx?LangID=95&menu=004
- ^ http://books.google.com.pk/books?id=BmA9AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
- ^ Lambert M Surhone, Mariam T Tennoe, Susan F Henssonow:2012:Punjabi Dialects:Beta script publishing:6134873527, 9786134873529
RfC: Should the pages Multani dialect, Derawali dialect. Riasti dialect and Thalochi dialect be merged in Saraiki language?
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Should the Title of the Page be Saraiki language? Should Multani dialect, Derawali dialect. Riasti dialect and Thalochi dialect be merged in this page Saraiki language?182.186.10.116 (talk) 11:11, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- No It is different as per linguistic sources. Saraiki is not a language please see talk page consensus on Saraiki dialect page. 39.51.169.207 (talk) 17:24, 15 October 2016 (UTC)