Talk:Naseer Ahmad Malhi
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[edit]I would clearly have to side with Haroon. Being a family friend, I can say that 80% of what has been cited in the Wikipedia article is factual. Anyone to state otherwise perhaps has their own political motive behind it...or better yet, is it because their Grandfather has not been labelled "one of the founding fathers of Pakistan"?
Haroon, perhaps you could scan and post a link of an article that presents us with a little bit of history with regards to Mr.Naseer Malhi's life and his political contributions. - the believer - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.243.18 (talk) 05:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hoax?
[edit]Please provide citations for the "Lord Malhi" from a notable source. There is nothing in either Google Scholar or Google site:edu (academic sites). Anyone connected with the Pakistan movement should have turned up there. If you don't provide a reliable set of references, the article will be deleted per WP policies. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Mr Fowler&Fowler and Islescape,
[edit]I have noticed that you have placed the article that I have authored under the hoax category. This is based on the fact that I have not provided any references.
Mr fowler/Islescape our family has books about Mr Malhi, by Pakistani journalists, they are in Urdu. If you like I can send you a copy. However I cannot make references to it's ISBN because the material is with the family in Lahore and I am overseas in Australia.
Nawaiwaqt prints an article on Mr Malhi on his Barsi every 12th July, which states just about what my article states. So if you pick any article on the 12th of July from any year after 1991, you will be able to confirm the validity of this article.
However, the authenticity of this article cannot be disputed because I am his grandson and anyone who knows the truth about him would be me.
As to checking the validity of what I have written, it can checked by anyone in the Muslim league archives.
Also our history books mention him and Sialkot convention. How could you not have heard of it?
We have in our collection all the medals that he was awarded at these conventions and I have photographs of Malhi sahib sitting next to the quaid at the sialkot convention.
I have looked at your other articles and I can see that you have particular interest in Pakistan/subcontinent history.
I am assuming that you are more likely than not from Pakistan. If you want I can organise for the material to be sent to you.
However Mr Malhi, nor his Biography is a hoax.
Regards,
Haroon
- Dear Haroon, Thanks for your reply. That's fine and apologies for the putting the tag, but please do provide some reliable references, otherwise, sooner or later, someone else will come along, notice the lack of citations, and slap another tag on the article. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Mr Malhi
[edit]Mr Fowler&Fowler and Islescape,
[edit]I have noticed that you have placed the article that I have authored under the hoax category. This is based on the fact that I have not provided any references.
Mr fowler/Islescape our family has books about Mr Malhi, by Pakistani journalists, they are in Urdu. If you like I can send you a copy. However I cannot make references to it's ISBN because the material is with the family in Lahore and I am overseas in Australia.
Nawaiwaqt prints an article on Mr Malhi on his Barsi every 12th July, which states just about what my article states. So if you pick any article on the 12th of July from any year after 1991, you will be able to confirm the validity of this article.
However, the authenticity of this article cannot be disputed because I am his grandson and anyone who knows the truth about him would be me.
As to checking the validity of what I have written, it can checked by anyone in the Muslim league archives.
Also our history books mention him and Sialkot convention. How could you not have heard of it?
We have in our collection all the medals that he was awarded at these conventions and I have photographs of Malhi sahib sitting next to the quaid at the sialkot convention.
I have looked at your other articles and I can see that you have particular interest in Pakistan/subcontinent history.
I am assuming that you are more likely than not from Pakistan. If you want I can organise for the material to be sent to you.
However Mr Malhi, nor his Biography is a hoax.
Regards,
Haroon
- See my reply above. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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This article is 95% fraudulent. I am related to Chaudhry Naseer Ahmad Mallhi and knew him personally growing up. Vast majority of so called facts in this article are concocted and outright lies. As an example he is hardly a close relative of Faiz Ahmad Faiz, the legendery poet except that his second cousin was married to a nephew of Faiz. This account is wildly exaggerated, factually wrong and intellectually dishonest. To label him as the founding father of Pakistan is a disgrace and to label him stellar academic/politician and with the kind of pedgree that is highlited is a patent lie. He was at best upper middle class and essentially squandered what little he had. Accounts like this will destroy the reliability of Wikipedia. Based on my personal knowledge of the veracity and inaccuracies of this article I agree with Mr Fowler that it is a hoax perpetrated by one of his family members (grandson) for pure publicity so that he can boast among his family members that his grandfather is in an encyclopedia. It should be removed and only facts with reliable citations be included.→Serenex 00:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC) |
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