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This part is doubtful and potentially harmful (and defamatory)

hello,

May I contest the following paragraph from DCNS's french company article, which seems biased:

First of all, an investigation was opened by the French Justice concerning the award of contract for Malaysian submarines signed by DCN International. No facts of corruption can be filed against DCNS.

Also, the references links are doubtful such as : - http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/fmt-english/news/general/4993-french-legal-team-in-malaysia-to-probe-sub-deal —> FreeMalaysiaToday (independant mangazine) which is used 3 times in such a short part of text.

- http://www.vancouversun.com/business/French+judges+begins+bribery+probe/6576987/story.html —> doesn’t work 404 Error

I suggest to delete this part or, at least, to propose a new content that would be more partial.

Thank You.

Controversy

The DCN / DCNS plays a major role in “one of France's biggest political and financial scandals of the last generation [that left] a trail of eight unexplained deaths, nearly half a billion dollars in missing cash and troubling allegations of government complicity” connected to a sale of warships to Taiwan in the 1990s.^[1]

Apart from the issues surrounding the sale of ships to Taiwan mentioned above, French prosecutors started investigating a wide range of corruption charges in 2010 involving different submarine sales, with possible bribery and kickbacks to top officials in France. In particular interest by the prosecutors are sales of Scorpène submarines to countries like India and Malaysia.^[2] The investigation in Malaysia has been prompted by human rights group Suaram as it involved current Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak when he was defence minister and his friend Abdul Razak Baginda^[3] whose company Primekar was alleged to be paid a huge commission during the purchase of two Scorpène submarines.^[4] French investigators are interested in the fact that Perimekar was formed only a few months before the contract was signed with the Malaysian government and DCNS and that Primekar had no track record in servicing submarines and did not have the financial capability to support the contract.^[5] Investigations have also revealed that a Hong Kong-based company called Terasasi Ltd in which the directors are Razak Baginda and his father, sold classified Malaysian navy defence documents to DCNS.^[6] Also under scrutiny are allegations of extortion and the murder of Shaariibuugiin Altantuyaa, a translator who worked on the deal.^[7]

On 15 December 2015, French courts indicted Bernard Baiocco, former president of Thales International Asia for paying kickbacks to Abdul Razak Baginda. At the same time director of shipbuilder DCN International was indicted for misuse of corporate assets.^[8]^[9]

^ Schofield, Hugh (1 December 2003). "Book delves into frigate scandal". BBC News. Retrieved 29 January 2015.
^ Asia Sentinel - Malaysia's Submarine Scandal Surfaces in France
^ "French legal team in Malaysia to probe sub deal". 28 April 2010. Archived from the original on 1 May 2010. The submarine deal was crafted during the tenure of the then-Defence Minister Najib Tun Razak, now prime minister, in 2002. As a result of the pact, RM3.7 billion in commission went to Najib's closest associate Abdul Razak Baginda.
^ "France probes corruption in arms to Malaysia". Retrieved 27 April 2016.
^ Malaysians allege graft in French submarine deal - BusinessWeek
^ "Thank You Malaysia". Retrieved 27 April 2016.
^ http://www.vancouversun.com/business/French+judges+begins+bribery+probe/6576987/story.html
^ "Thank You Malaysia". Retrieved 27 April 2016.
^ "Scorpene scandal resurfaces, Suaram vindicated". Free Malaysia Today. Retrieved 27April 2016. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

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Should the article be moved to Naval Group like French Wikipedia to reflect the current name ? 隐世高人 (talk) 15:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support DH85868993 (talk) 10:16, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why no administrator(s) respond to my proposal? 隐世高人 (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of any objections, I have moved the page, also noting that German Wikipedia have also moved their page. DH85868993 (talk) 00:01, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! In addition French and German, I have noticed Czech Wikipedia and Polish Wikipedia also moved their page. 隐世高人 (talk) 23:43, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Schofield, Hugh (1 December 2003). "Book delves into frigate scandal". BBC News. Retrieved 29 January 2015.

[2] Asia Sentinel - Malaysia's Submarine Scandal Surfaces in France

[3] "French legal team in Malaysia to probe sub deal". 28 April 2010. Archived from the original on 1 May 2010. The submarine deal was crafted during the tenure of the then-Defence Minister Najib Tun Razak, now prime minister, in 2002. As a result of the pact, RM3.7 billion in commission went to Najib's closest associate Abdul Razak Baginda.

[4] "France probes corruption in arms to Malaysia". Retrieved 27 April 2016.

[5] Malaysians allege graft in French submarine deal - BusinessWeek

[6] "Thank You Malaysia". Retrieved 27 April 2016.

[7] ttp://www.vancouversun.com/business/French+judges+begins+bribery+probe/6576987/story.html

[8] "Thank You Malaysia". Retrieved 27 April 2016.

[9] "Scorpene scandal resurfaces, Suaram vindicated". Free Malaysia Today. Retrieved 27April 2016. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

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