Talk:Neidingen
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About Charles the Fat
[edit]I've removed part of the hidden text in the article related to Charles the Bald and Charles the Fat. It was hidden IMHO because too generic and unrelated to the argument (this German village). Anyway, I place here the text:
The Empire after the death of Charles the Bald under attack in the north and west by the Vikings, facing internal struggles from Italy to the Baltic, and Hungary to Aquitaine in the west. Charles the Bald died in 877 crossing the Pass of Mont Cenis, and was succeeded by his son, Louis the Stammerer as King of the Western Franks, but the title of Holy Roman Emperor lapsed. Louis the Stammerer was physically weak and died two years later, his realm being divided between his eldest two sons: Louis III gaining Neustria and Francia, and Carloman gaining Aquitaine and Burgundy. The Kingdom of Italy was finally granted to King Carloman of Bavaria, but a stroke forced him to abdicate Italy to his brother Charles the Fat and Bavaria to Louis of Saxony. Also in 879, Boso, Count of Arles founded the Kingdom of Lower Burgundy in Provence.
In 881, Charles the Fat was crowned the Holy Roman Emperor while Louis II of Saxony and Louis III of Francia died the following year. Saxony and Bavaria were united with Charles the Fat's Kingdom, and Francia and Neustria were granted to Carloman of Aquitaine who also conquered Lower Burgundy. Carloman died in a hunting accident in 884 after a tumultuous and ineffective reign, and his lands were inherited by Charles the Fat, effectively recreating the Empire of Charlemagne.
I left last part of the text in the article, most related to the death of Charles the Fat in Neidingen. This is the original edit in which this text was added. Regards. --Dэя-Бøяg 21:05, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Neidingen vs. Neudingen
[edit]I doubt that this was the Neidingen where Charles the Fat spent his last days. There is a village that today is called Neudingen (see the [Article in de WP]) which today is part of Donaueschingen and which was historically named Neidingen. That other Neidingen has an abbey built on the site of a carolingian Pfalz while at Neidingen near Beuron there seem to be no traces of any major building that could serve as the home for a former emperor. So I suggest that the passage about Charles the Fat be deleted here. If anyone wants to create an article about Neudingen in Donaueschingen, this passage may then be added there. --Proofreader (talk) 21:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)