Talk:Night of the Murdered Poets
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Der Nister
[edit]This article says he was shot in in the basement of Lubyanka prison in 1952, but the Der Nister article says he died in the Gulag in 1950. Which is correct? Speciate 03:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)speciate
- Correct. Fixed it. ←Humus sapiens ну? 10:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Rehabilitated?
[edit]On November 22, 1955, the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR determined that there was "no substance to the charges" against the defendants and closed the case. Does this mean the victims were officially (if posthumously) "rehabilitated"? The "category" links at the end include "Soviet rehabilitations." Interesting article. Sca (talk) 14:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- It's possible Nikita Khrushchev used this incident in one of his speeches denouncing Stalin, but I'll have to dig around a little. A subject-matter-expert may know off the top of their heads ... HammerFilmFan (talk) 02:11, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Who called it "Night of the Murdered Poets"? The Russian and Yiddish titles are completely different.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:01, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Jack Upland: A similar poetic idiom (ночь расстрелянных поэтов, "night of the [executed by] shot poets") certainly exists in Russian-language Jewish narrative (note that the language makes no difference between "killed" and "murdered"). Russian-language searches are a no-go. Seems like it's untraceable. Even ru:Эстрайх, Геннадий Яковлевич (a British Jewish historian and author of the biographical dictionary of Yiddisch writers - who would know better?) admits that he doesn't know where it came from [1].
- However, exactly the same idiom is also used for the executions in Minsk on 29-30 October 1937 (cf. Pishchalauski Castle and Amerikanka). That's why so many false positives: the Jewish presence inevitably wanes, the Belarusian sources prevail.
- Overall, I wouldn't care much about the title. What is wrong with the article is that it does not say a word about the real case. What triggered it, how the MGB unfolded the case, who was the agent provocateur and how he set up his fellow Jews etc. Retired electrician (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Fefer or Feffer?
[edit]The first paragraph under Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee mentions "Itzik Fefer" - but no. 3 in the list of Defendants is "Itzik Feffer". Which is correct? If both are acceptable, wouldn't it be sensible to select one and use it consistently? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 04:56, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
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