Talk:Empire State

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Suggestions from copy edit[edit]

After copyediting this at UpstateNYer's request, I have a couple of issues that, I suppose, any editor could resolve:

  • What year did Flick's first book come out? It would be helpful to say in the text.
  • There are other uses of "Empire State" that could be mentioned: Empire State Development Corporation, the Pataki-era renaming of the former Urban Development Corporation and the Jay-Z-Alicia Keys collaboration "Empire State of Mind" come to mind. I also remember it being used in an unflattering, sarcastic way in political commentary, i.e., the "Run-like-an-Empire State". Perhaps we could find something on that? Daniel Case (talk) 05:00, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I'll find out about Flick's book. I think Empire State of Mind is a misnomer because they're talking about the city, which really isn't related (i.e., it's not called the Empire City or anything of the sort). upstateNYer 19:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Empire State/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: NickDupree I'll be reviewing this article shortly....

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:

This is a good, solid article, suitable for GA status. The topic is simple, New York State's nickname, and thus you must strike a balance between over-lengthy content on a simple matter, and being a brief paragraph more suitable for a dictionary. This article strikes that balance; it is short, but not too short, and it's well-sourced without overkill (avoiding paralysis by analysis). I do have two suggestions for keeping its GA status.


  • Use a better picture for the Empire State Building, something of a closer shot from the Empire State Building article. The current photograph, it is much too wide and could refer to the other tower, or the New York City skyline in general.
  • Don't let the article get much longer, keep it concise and don't include cultural minutiae like the "Empire state of mind" that belong elsewhere, like in List_of_songs_about_New_York_City.

Thanks for this opportunity to do my first GA Review!  :) NickDupree (talk) 03:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

"Empire" style was also a French artistic movement in the early 19th century, which in the US seems to have been strongest in New York state. The article canvasses several unconvincing theories of the nickname's origin, and mentions that the first known use of the "Empire State" nickname was in 1819, which fits the empire artistic period. Perhaps this is what the state's nickname refers to, rather than any imperial reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Honeyishrunktheeconomy (talkcontribs) 09:23, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Bad taste nickname[edit]

I just thought of this for the first time... but isn't it kinda bad taste to be a empire in 2012? Wasn't that American Revolution exactly against that whole thing? I think the state of New York needs a new nickname — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:11, 16 August 2012 (UTC)