Talk:Ottoman Empire in World War I

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very good start. Needs more citations. Section on entry into war should summarize the separate article. Image on military structure needs to be clearer. There are templates for that, and perhaps a separate article on the order of battle is appropriate. auntieruth (talk) 17:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article npov tagged[edit]

A large part of this article contained content derived from the deleted "1915 insurgency in the Ottoman Empire" article [1]. I have attempted to remove the most blatant pov material and wording derived from the deleted article [2]. However I find that bias and fringe viewpoint material is embedded too deeply and is too widespread throughout this article to be easily removed and considerable work will be needed to get this article to an acceptable npov standard. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:33, 30 May 2015 (UTC) [reply]

~~I'm also rather surprised that this article did not exist until March 2015. Is its subject perhaps covered already in an existing article? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:36, 30 May 2015 (UTC)~~ [reply]

I have completely deleted the Inter-communal conflicts as it is so full of pov, bias and fringe viewpoints that it is unsalvageable. It is mostly derived from Armenian Genocide denial propaganda, as was the deleted "1915 insurgency in the Ottoman Empire" article written by the same editor as this article. Genocide is not "inter communal violence". Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 23:11, 30 May 2015 (UTC) Blocked sock:Meowy.[reply]

This article is really bad and needs to be thoroughly rewritten. Cut back a lot of the POV and just stick to the facts. Wikipedia Tarzan (talk) 10:51, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikipedia Tarzan: This article was specifically created by a nationalist Turkish editor in March 2015, to whitewash the Armenian Genocide centennial one month before it occured, therefore it has to be written from scratch. --92slim (talk) 23:32, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable claim[edit]

I think the following passage from the Balance sheet section should be reconsidered: "Furthermore, it is also likely that without Ottoman participation, neither the Russian revolution nor the entry of the U.S into the First World War would have occurred." Given all the factors and forces that led to the 1917 Russian Revolution, stating this event would likely not have occurred but for the Ottoman entry lengthening the war is a stretch. I believe this is an opinion and one that most historians would not support. The Revolution would have taken a different course, but this is different from the statement here. // Timothy :: talk 20:06, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Declaration of jihad by the Ottoman Empire into Ottoman Empire in World War I[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To merge Declaration of jihad by the Ottoman Empire and 1914 Ottoman jihad proclamation into this article, as an unnecessary split; readers best served by the context of a single article. Klbrain (talk) 20:26, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Low visibility fork of a concept that is unlikely to be google searched. Would better serve readers as part of the larger article, adding more context to the participation of the empire in the war. Sadads (talk) 16:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

While at this topic, 1914 Ottoman jihad proclamation is also a similar content fork to Declaration of jihad by the Ottoman Empire. Any possible merging consideration, do include both articles. Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 01:25, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The two Ottoman jihad articles are clearly about the same topic and should not both be kept. Based on their content, I think that merging to here is likely warranted, as neither has much information about the significance or impact of the declaration itself, beyond signifying the Ottoman entry into the war. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:45, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I support Rosguill’s view. Mccapra (talk) 17:16, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've come across this article a half dozen times during NPP, merge is the best thing for the topic and the article. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 05:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support as well. Seems to be an ideal merge. scope_creep^Talk 12:13, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merged one, and redirect the other (no unique content). Klbrain (talk) 20:35, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]