Talk:Ottoman Navy

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Needs references, even if they're not in English. Cla68 07:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Italo-Turkish War[edit]

Some mention of the Ottoman Navy's routes concurrent to WW1 should be made. --NEMT (talk) 20:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


Isn't that pure piracy? A fleet that goes somewhere 'just to raid' sounds like piracy. -- (talk) 18:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

When it is a nation-state doing it, it's only "pure piracy" to the pirated. The pirates consider themselves privateers if not "navies". Cf. English and Spanish opinions on the buccaneers or English opinion on Drake versus English opinion on the Barbary corsairs. — LlywelynII 08:26, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
The finer points of piracy vs privateering were quite irrelevant in the 16th century. Any attempt differentiate between the two before well into the early modern period is fairly anachronistic since the whole idea relies on reasonably standardized international maritime law and monopoly on violence. Hardly any states at the time could be reasonably defined as nation states, and certainly not the Ottoman Empire and its suzerain satellites in North Africa. "Raiding" or even "sea roving" would be a more appropriate and neutral description.
Peter Isotalo 13:16, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

First fortress built in 1351? Don't think so...[edit]

Marked this passage dubious

The first Ottoman fortress in Europe was built in 1351

All the sources I've seen (that weren't so lazy they start with Gallipoli) claim the Turks' first European fortress was Tzympe in 1352. That was a Byzantine fortress they either took over or raided. Is there a name and a cite for this earlier, Turkish-constructed fortress? — LlywelynII 08:26, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I think the whole section (page?) was lifted from this unsourced site. Plagiarism issues? — LlywelynII 10:18, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Abdul Hamid[edit]

Material is now available on Wiki Commons for this cruiser of 1903 Abdul Hamid. Editors are invited to use this.TWAMWIR (talk) 14:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

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Any article on the Ottoman Navy needs to mention its role in the beginning of the Ottomans' involvement in WW1 - the attack on the Russian Black Sea coast on 29 Oct 1914. This began the Ottoman's involvement in the war.

Wikipedia Tarzan (talk) 10:36, 19 June 2016 (UTC)