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Stub to Start

Article was moved from Stub to Start status because it has been expanded in information and content. Added etymology information and section breaks, yet need to fill out the main content a bit further. Includes references and imagery. In addition, the main article has not had a Stub tag for some time. Araesmojo (talk) 19:46, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology section disputed

The Etymology section of this page does not appear to be correct (or at least particularly well cited). The Lexico.com citation linking the word footer to the French word foutre appears only to refer to the Scottish variant of footer (to fiddle about). Including the Google n-gram plot of the frequency of the words footer, footle and foutre is pointless, as there is no sense of the context in which those words are used. The graph does not demonstrate that the word footer came to be the dominant term over the others for the space at the bottom of a printed page; only that it came into more popular usage (for whatever purpose) then the other terms. I recommend deleting this section entirely. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Araesmojo: as the original creator of this material. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:46, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @WikiDan61: Its wikipedia. If you think its wrong, change it. Referenced https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/footer and ( “footer”, in Lexico, Dictionary.com; Oxford University Press, 2019–present. "Mid 18th century: variant of obsolete foutre ‘valueless thing, contemptible person’, from Old French." ) and ( “footle” in Douglas Harper, Online Etymology Dictionary, 2001–2021, retrieved 12 June 2017: “Footle (v) [...] from dialectal footer "to trifle," footy "mean, paltry" (1752), perhaps from French se foutre "to care nothing," from Old French futer "to copulate with," from Latin futuere "have sex with (a woman)," originally "to strike, thrust" (which is perhaps from PIE root *bhau- "to strike").”. ) Araesmojo (talk) 18:16, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Araesmojo: The Wiktionary entry for footer (not a WP:RS, by the way) as well as the Dictionary.com entry, associates the etymology derived from the French foutre explicitly with the Scots meaning of "to fiddle around." That form of footer is not related to the term page footer. So, yes, I think I will remove it. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:28, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]