Talk:Pisgah National Forest

Highest terrain

The article states that Mount Pisgah (5721 ft) is the highest point in the forest, but then goes on to claim elevations in the forest reach over 6000 ft. Clearly these two points are contradictory, unless it simply means that Mount Pisgah is the highest mountain located entirely within the forest, in which case I suggest some clarification. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.215.132.137 (talk) 23:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

Agree with above. Cold Mountain's elevation is at 6,030 ft. 300 feet higher than mt. pisgah. Also there are many other peaks in the shining rock wilderness area that surpass even cold mtn. into the 6,400 ft. range. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.144.86.66 (talk) 06:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I added some info about elevations, but could find no sources that say anything is above 6400' in Pisgah National Forest. Black Balsam Knob is 6214', Mount Hardy is 6110', Tennant is 6056', and Cold Mountain is 6030'.—LithiumFlash (talk) 14:55, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Not the first national forest

I just made some edits to the page, mostly to the history section. It was claimed that Pisgah was the first national forest of the United States. I was skeptical and looked into it. From what I gather, and referenced in footnotes, Pisgah was not even close to the first. It was established in 1916, but a great many national forests were established in the west decades earlier. Terminology changed -- in 1905 the "Bureau of Forestry" was renamed the "Forest Service" and put under the USDA, and in 1907 the "national forest reserves" were renamed "national forests". One could thus argue that true national forests did not exist until 1907. But even if one buys that argument, quite a few national forests were created between 1907 and 1916 -- mostly in the west, but also including Nantahala (1907) and Ocala in Florida (1908, later joined to Osceola NF). Further, national forests were being created in the Ozark region as early as 1907. Often the names and delineations changed over time, but still, I don't think Pisgah can really claim to be the first -- not even the first in the east, the southeast, or the Appalachians. The history of national forest creation can be found in great (overwhelming) detail at National Forests of the U.S..

I can see how the Cradle of Forestry and the Biltmore lands, now part of Pisgah, could be seen as among the first forest lands reserved and later made into national forests. But still, they were not actually made into a national forest until 1916 as far as I can tell. Anyway, just explaining my edits. Sorry if I got anything wrong. Pfly (talk) 05:42, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Climate? Ecology?

Article seems half-finished. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.129.194.125 (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Guns

Recently President Obama signed in a new Law that firearms can be carried in all natoinal parks. How does this effect Pisgah National Forest? What has changed? We have always been able to carry 22 long Rifle weapons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.144.77.109 (talk) 22:05, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Given that it's not a National Park, I would guess it has no effect. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 22:16, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Globe Forest

Is the "Globe Forest" a part of Pisgah National Forest? Based on the photos on the photo gallery page of this website -- the Defend the Globe Forest website of the North Carolina Forest Defense Campaign -- it appears that the Globe Forest is connected to the Pisgah forest is some way. Does anyone know? And if we have a reliable source (not a blog), we should endeavor to improve the Pisgah article by covering this important controversy dealing with saving old growth forest in North Carolina. N2e (talk) 22:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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