Talk:President of the United States

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January 19, 2004 Refreshing brilliant prose Kept
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Andrew Johnson's party affiliation[edit]

In the Timeline of presidents section, Andrew Johnson is listed as being a Democrat. While he was a Democrat, Johnson was Lincoln's running mate on the 1864 Republican ticket. During that time, the Republican Party referred to itself as the National Union Party. I suggest that Andrew Johnson be listed as being a President of the National Union Party, because that would be a clearer description of his party affiliation. SMP0328. (talk) 00:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

 Implemented – The template has been changed. Cheers. Drdpw (talk) 03:29, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. SMP0328. (talk) 03:51, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Unreviewable authority[edit]

A claim was added about the president having unreviewable authority over immigration. The 3 sources used are: a Washington Post (WP) article, a National Law Journal (NLJ) article, and a circuit court ruling.

The WP article doesn't say anything about unreviewable authority. It just says that a recent executive order on immigration has "grave legal defects". Not sure why this source is being used.

The short news article by NLJ reports that SCOTUS will review the current president's claim that he can't be reviewed. Again, not sure why this is being used.

The circuit court ruling contains a summary of the current president's claim, which is that the president has unreviewable authority. The next page of the ruling goes on to describe SCOTUS's prior rulings against unreviewable authority. I'm sensing a pattern here.

The three sources make a good case that the president actually does NOT have unreviewable authority over immigration. The claim needs to be rewritten to actually reflect the sources. Thanks. KinkyLipids (talk) 06:01, 22 January 2018 (UTC).

I agree with you that the statement about the president having unreviewable authority over immigration is not backed up by the citations provided. More seriously, it's just thrown into the section, seemingly haphazardly, and states a hotly contested assertion as fact (in contravention of WP:NPOV). Rather then attempting to refine the claim, I'd eliminate it altogether. Now, having said that, perhaps a couple sentences could be added to that section's paragraph on executive orders:

From–The president possesses additional powers to direct the executive branch through executive orders that are grounded in federal law or executive power that is constitutionally vested. Executive orders are subject to Judicial review by U.S. federal courts, which can find them to be unconstitutional. Additionally, Congress can overturn an executive order though legislation.

To something like–Additionally, the president possesses the power to manage operations of the federal government through issuing various types of directives, such as presidential proclamation and executive orders. When the president is lawfully exercising one of their constitutionally conferred responsibilities, the scope of this power is broad. Even so, these directives are subject to judicial review by U.S. federal courts, which can find them to be unconstitutional. Moreover, Congress can overturn an executive order though legislation.

That's my 2¢ worth; anyone else have thoughts on the matter? Drdpw (talk) 01:48, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@Drdpw (talk · contribs): Thanks, that sounds great——on both eliminating the claim about unreviewable authority and making changes to the paragraph on executive orders. KinkyLipids (talk) 15:29, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 Implemented – I've made modifications to the subsection. Drdpw (talk) 03:26, 24 January 2018 (UTC)