Talk:Priest (2011 film)

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Christian themed?[edit]

I removed the words "Christian-themed" from the description in the lede. Just because the movie features Christians and Satanists doesn't make it a Christian themed movie, just like most Kung-Fu flicks aren't Buddhist-themed just because they feature Shaolin monks. The Exorcist films actually do attempt to address some theological stuff, and they aren't considered "Christian themed." This is basically Blood, the movie. I do plan on seeing the movie when it comes out (loved the game, been reading the comic), but come on. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

The show *IS* "Christian-themed", in the sense that a huge part of the show is about the absolute power and corruption of the Catholic Church in the movie world. It's not a religious movie by any means though. It just uses the Catholic Church as a very strong background and writer's tool. Jasonred79 (talk) 23:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Like I said, "Kung-Fu flicks aren't Buddhist-themed just because they feature Shaolin monks." Ian.thomson (talk) 00:29, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
While I agree that simply having a cross as a plot device does not make a piece "Christian-themed", I think that the movie Priest goes further than simply using symbols as window dressing. To me, there were definite attempts to address questions of the legitimacy of inter-faith authority, purity of intent vs purity of action, and conflicts of faith. While these conflicts are not unique to Christianity, and there was little to no effort shown to address those conflicts in a Christian theological mode (much less a Catholic one), the ever-present symbolism made it clear to me that the writers intended to place this discussion in a Catholic/Christian environment. So for me, it *is* 'Christian-themed', abet done in a heavy-handed, clumsy and theologically-questionable (dressing the Church with the Moaist ideology of 1984? Really?) manner with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.Kerani (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
I'd consider it Christian Church based, loosely on Roman Catholicism via clothing and titles of the monsignor, the cross and the crucifixion of the three priests in Jericho. THEN, the maoist ideology of 1984 added onto it, showing a church as the Roman Catholic church of old would be with somewhat current technology. But, realistically, it could only be based in that way to succeed with western audiences, who are unfamiliar with other religious systems, such as Buddhist warrior societies within their monasteries. Hence, it is a necessary plot device. But, I'm sure some religious folks, who are not as comfortable in their own faith would consider an attack. But, I'll go with Kerani totally regarding the subtlety of a sledgehammer. But, I'll also say, there are times when such subtlety is called for, to make the point far more rapidly than would otherwise be possible and not do a "Gone with the wind" length movie.Wzrd1 (talk) 19:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Visual effects[edit]

There is very likely going to be visual effects coverage of the film. A list of possible resources can be found here. If you find anything that can be used, please implement it in the article or list it here. Erik (talk | contribs) 18:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Here is an article to use. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Another. Erik (talk | contribs) 19:12, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization[edit]

I'm not sure the capitalization of priest, in the article, is always correct. The lead character is called Priest (uppercase), but he is also a priest (lowercase). In the text he is commonly referred to as 'the Priest' and I think this is incorrect - it should be just 'Priest' or 'the priest'. Thoughts anyone? Obscurasky (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I would agree with that unless there's something in the source material to encourage the previous cap structure. Millahnna (talk) 19:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Seconded. I'm replacing "the Priest" with "the priest" since it seems to me to require less change overall. If it seems less readable to others, I will not object to "the Priest" being replaced with "Priest." Ian.thomson (talk) 21:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

The article does need a bit of cleanup in regards to the capitalization. Maybe do away with using "Priest" in any context but the character's name (and potentially the other three characters that are also priests), and use "(member of a/the) priesthood" instead? Given that it's the character's only given name, title, profession, and general way of life, without having seen the entire film I'm probably not the person to make the distinction between the two, but it's just a thought. Shotgunmaniac (talk) 03:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought I had got all of it, but I see that my search function considered the "priest" element of "priests" to be completely different from the word "priest," for some reasons. :/ Gone through and replaced "Priests" with "priests," so the capital version should only refer to character names. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Plot[edit]

It was too short! I was adding in important plot details. 24.187.168.103 (talk) 00:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Guidelines suggest we shoot for about 700 words or less. Sometimes there are exceptions when a plot is particularly complex (Memento is the common example) but 1000 words is way too long. I'm looking at our current plot compared to your diff to see if there are critical details we can improve upon based on your version while still keeping the length at an optimum level. I need to rewatch the film to be certain of my details but I thought I saw one or two things in your version that we could improve in the current version. Millahnna (talk) 01:00, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


True Priests[edit]

This movie was very well done. I'm also saying this from a christian perspective. There are a lot of secular movies that are pretty immoral sexually or content or what not...but this movie was able to hold the values and intergrity and simulatneously cast forth greatness. This has become an instant favorite of mine. Because there are stories in the ancient scriptures of men, like Samson, that we're truly blessed and touched by God...and were able to single handedly destroy armies. In these current times, we humans are being suppressed, but someday, through prayer fasting and sacrifice we can obtain the ancient holiness and power that our dear Father wants to give us. So even though this movie was a Hollywood creation, it is relative to a reality of the true Priests of True Light. § AndreOnate (talk) 23:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Andre. Wikipedia's talk page guidelines say, "Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article." If you want to discuss the film, I recommend a message board like the one at IMDb here. Erik (talk | contribs) 23:51, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Amen,but don't bring your religious crap here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.44.146.86 (talk) 19:43, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Face tattoo[edit]

Don't know if and where to add it to the article, but one thing that really struck me is the careless continuity on the priests' cross-shaped face tattoos. It's everything from freshly-done to rather faded and back of the neck of the nose to below the nosetip, on the same characters. Even with 'the' priest it changes from shot to shot. 84.63.56.223 (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Questions like this are invariably answered by the way the WP:reliable sources that you find to support your opinion report it. GDallimore (Talk) 09:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)