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Military history: Technology / Weaponry / African Start‑class

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South Africa: African military history Mid‑importance

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I have reviewed the article and made the following changes. Should evidence be presented and referenced to these sentences then please feel free to add them in again.

“minority white government” - this is not about the minority white government and serves no purpose in this article.

“, but by the mid 1980s research was being done into CBW for the purpose of assassinating the enemies of the regime” has been removed. There is no cited evidence of this.

Removed "hastily scrapped, lest they fall into the hands of the new ANC government" from sentence

“With the end of Apartheid, South Africa's various weapons of mass destruction programs were hastily scrapped, lest they fall into the hands of the new ANC government.”

This is clearly POV with the "lest" - where is this evidence?

Assassination of enemies was explored and there is evidence to support it however it cannot be kept in this article until some evidence is shown and referenced. What the ANC has to do with this I don't know - according to the NTI has concluded that it is difficult to assess the potential proliferation threat posed by WMD programs, even years after they have been officially terminated and dismantled thus meaning it isn't possible to confirm that the ANC hasn't been involved in the proliferation of what the previous government achieved in its research.

Misssa (talk) 17:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is evidence or there SEEMS TO BE evidence is a difference. I won't exclude that, but it needs to be shown and referenced. Just some hearsay tales won't do. 154.69.18.120 (talk) 17:49, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pyridine reference uncited.

Uncited reference to pyridine for purpose of sterilization.

I don't tend to believe that anyone thought that pyridine results in instant sterilization, and that this would be effective crowd control. The wiki page for pyridine states that pyridine has a narcotic effect, which more closely matches the actual intent of drug weaponization for effective crowd control.

As uncited, it's only speculation, so it could be removed. Razzintown (talk) 06:02, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unusual features : Phrasing when talking about the researched drugs

I have some doubt about the accuracy of a sentence in this article, I highlighted the words which I am unsure of in the citation following ; "This led to the investigation of unusual non-lethal agents, including illicit recreational drugs such as phencyclidine, MDMA, methaqualone and cocaine, as well as medicinal drugs such as diazepam, midazolam, ketamine, suxamethonium and tubocurarine, as potential incapacitating"

I do not understand why drugs are categorized in this way. Is it referring to the actual legal situation of those drugs or to the historic situation ? I might miss something as I'm not a native english speaker, but I feel like if such a categorization has to be made it ought to be justified. To me it is also innacurate because PCP, methaqualone and cocaine were medicinal drugs at some point (and actually cocaine still is in some edge case), and some of the medicinal drugs such as diazepam, midazolam, and especially ketamine are often used as recreational drugs, and by definition illicitly. If it is of historic relevence or if this is all a misunderstanding from me I'd be glad to hear about it. If it's not I propose to just remplace the dichotomy by : "including drugs such as ..." followed by a long enumeration. Toucanite (talk) 08:12, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plans for Revision

Dear All,

As a student at Rice University currently taking a course on "Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities," I am considering revising this article as part of a semester-long project. Specifically, I would like to revise the section on "Employment" by adding proper citations, remove some of the chemical jargons in the "Unusual Features" section, and include additional information on eugenic motives and anti-fertility research. For a complete list of references, please visit my User Page.

SLTsou (talk) 04:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold. Go for it. Needs a rewrite and referencing. Conlinp (talk) 05:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Science and colonialism

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 January 2023 and 24 March 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Theoevans84 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Theoevans84 (talk) 04:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]