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Culture and Other Racial Topics Pertaining to Public Bathing
I know, I sound so racist, but I'm sure you know what I mean. I don't mean anything bad.
There are a lot of various origins of the American idea of "Public Bath," so the article is too disorganized. It's not a very, very important article, but it will be good to arrange public baths by origin more. So, put information on Turkish baths and other Byzantine-type in distinction. Put Medival and Western European/American in another distinction, emphasizing historical origins in a mostly historical context, since there isn't much to say about Medival bath houses. And incorrporate the sex-segregation and such into the American or modern area, so it doesn't bleed into historical information. And make distinction between Japanese and Western styles. I put some information based on Korean bath houses, but it's obvious that most of the non-Western is about Japan. Actually, a lot of stuff in the article is unnecessary or doesn't belong, and I saw there are articles for onsen and the like, so I don't know why there needs to be step by step instructions and things in this article, which I think should focus on the origins, impact, trends, and so on...
OK. So, if anyone likes to, organize more effectively by segregating the various "racial" origins. And the second segregation is by modern and historical: Byzantine and Medival are in historical and decline of public bath due to sex segregation. And the modern is about modern baths, which will change. For now, focus on Japanese, the spa sensation and health/wellness sensation (I supose it fits in, but I can be wrong), and any other issues that pertain. The sex segregation is also a good possibility that will be addressed in modern-mode and history-mode, no need to block information with bureaucracy... And so on. These are just my idea. If no one grossly objects, I will hopefully start organizing in the near future, possibly over the Thanksgiving weekend-off. I'm not often at wikipedia editing, but for some reason I want to share about public bath houses so much...
The biggest bath in the Roman Empire was the Baths of Diocletian not the Baths of Caracalla.
I tried to remove the POV parts of the article, as well as removing the redundant and reoganizing a bit. A lot of better quality information on public baths can be found in the linked articles.
The Band: Baths
I would just like to suggest that a stub be created for Baths and their album Cerulean. Not an unknown band. Highly reviewed on pitchfork and allmusic. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Other meaning of bathhouse
bath·house (bthhous, bäth-) n. 1. A building with facilities for bathing. 2. A building with dressing rooms for swimmers.
As seen in the above dictionary definition for 'bathhouse', the term can refer to a building for changing into bathing costumes rather than a building for bathing. This second meaning can apply to a private facility as well as a public one. For example, the wealthy female patrons of Bailey's Beach in the late 19th century changed in and out of their bathing costumes (for wading into the ocean) in private bathhouses. (Each family had their own bathhouse.)
Also, as can be read in the article on Volubilis, private bathhouses for bathing have existed since at least the mid-3rd century.
I suggest that the 'Public bathing' article be renamed 'Bathhouses' and add content to fully address both public and private bathhouses and bathhouses used for changing into bathing costumes as well those used for bathing. An alternative would be to create a separate 'Bathhouse' article. (Given the length and expansive scope of the 'Gay bathhouses' article, I believe that it should remain a separate article.)Penelope Gordon (talk) 19:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
It currently seems a bit odd. On one hand, we try to divide the article up into "ancient" and "modern", but at the same time try to divide the article up by countries, like so:
1.1 Indus Valley Civilization 1.2 Ancient Greece 1.3 Roman Empire 1.4 Ottoman Empire 1.5 Japan 1.6 Indonesia 1.7 Modern public bathing (Europe, during the middle ages and beyond) (Scandinavia) (UK and Ireland) 1.7.1 Hot public baths (UK) (Sydney, Australia) (United States) 1.7.2 Russia
It's not really linear although it kind of tries to be. It's broken up by cultures and civilizations. Instead of nesting that don't quite make sense, I suggest grouping by region as follows:
* Indus Valley Civilization * Ancient Greece * Roman Empire * Europe, during the middle ages and beyond * Ottoman Empire * UK and Ireland * Sydney, Australia * United States * Scandinavia * Japan * Russia
I think the article is somewhat too much focused on European perspective. We could include Islamic (Arab/Moorish) civilization (other than Turkey), India, Korea and China too. I suggests we reorganize the article according to its cultural region and nations instead of history (ancient-modern); since in certain cases like Turkey and Japan, public bathing culture today is still alive and well and relatively unchanged for ages. It was actually the preserved heritage of ancient bathing culture. On the second thought, maybe history section could be preserved only to include the already perished ancient civilizations e.g. Indus, Ancient Greece, Roman empire.05:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
New Bathhouse In New York City - Modern Public
We have a new "Russian & Turkish Bathhouse" in the downtown area. I didn't go in. There is a $40 entrance fee for the entire day. I figured I'd get water logged. I was told it was like a spa. Besides, I have a bathtub. I was curious having thought bathhouses to be illegal. I have seen the landmark here in NYC many times and the remnants of the ones on the water in San Francisco. Although I never heard specifics, I understood there were reasons the government had shut them down. There are not specifics here about the closing of the New York City one, nor were there specifics about the Roman ones, but I have heard allusions. After all I have seen, heard and experienced in this neighborhood, in the context of this neighborhood when I see a bathhouse, I personally would associate the history of a bathhouse and the history I have experienced of this neighborhood and get an unfavorable opinion. However, that is merely an impression that I get. I am truly unhappy here. However, I must add I once accidentally rented an apartment and a room with only a shower, locally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 05:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)