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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by TJMSmith (talk15:22, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:50, 3 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article adequately expanded, well written, no copyvios, AGF for the source. Interesting hook, I had to check exactly when Wilson died as I didn't think it was right after WWI, so this puts some more context into it. Only quibble is the QPQ doesn't appear to exist. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Pueblo speech/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tkbrett (talk · contribs) 01:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I will be giving this article a go. Tkbrett (✉) 01:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Lead

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  • Good.

Background

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  • "In a "crusade" that has been described as...": fix passive voicing here. Should be "In a "crusade" that historian Leroy G. Dorsey describes as..." or the name of whoever is doing the describing.
  • First mention of Pueblo should specify Pueblo, Colorado. Also, should be linked.
  • Every sentence in the opening paragraph uses the word "Pueblo", which is distracting. It can be cut from the second and fourth sentence: A contemporary newspaper described the crowd as "a great many"... and When Wilson arrived, he visited...

Speech

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  • "in memory of soldiers who died during World War I.": Does the source specify which ones? Presumably it was just American soldiers.
    • Unfortunately, source doesn't specify at all.
  • More passive voicing at Wilson was introduced by Alva Adams, a former Governor of Colorado. -> Former Colorado Governor Alva Adams introduced Wilson.
  • Theodore Roosevelt needs an introduction (e.g. former US President)

Legacy and analysis

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  • "feels that it both": both refers to two things, but you list three.
  • Passive voicing: A fragment of the speech was included in the play "Mr. Wilson's Peace of Mind" by Mark Stein. -> Mark Stein's play "Mr. Wilson's Peace of Mind" includes a fragment of the speech.

References

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  • The GA criteria doesn't require you to have the same referencing format across the entire page, but WP:GANOT does mention that you should provide a page number when directly quoting something. Reference 4 (Dorsey 1999) only provides the page range 107–135 of the journal article. If you move it into the Bibliography then you will be able to provide a specific page number for this citation.

General comments and verdict

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Who is Whitman?

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Article currently states "Whitman later said that it "would have been better" if he had died immediately after giving the Pueblo speech.[24]" However, there is no other reference to "Whitman" on the page to explain who this might be. I realize there is a ref to a book, but I'm too lazy to check that out as it requires registration. I realize this may be a non-notable Whitman, but the total lack of context for the quote is a bit jarring, esp. in a Good Article. CAVincent (talk) 05:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]