Talk:Rockstar (Dolly Parton album)

Maybe we could use the track listing template here

I think this article could benefit from using the Template:Track listing to better lay out the writers and featured artists. The Manual of Style page for albums suggests it can benefit albums with more complex listings like this. I know at first glance I was confused that both things inside the parentheses were for the writers then the collaborators because only a comma is between them, and then a comma also separates the multiple collaborators. I think the template would help clear up this confusion for future readers. Let me know what you think. 120.17.117.109 (talk) 06:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I strongly dislike the template. The solution is to leave this an ordered list and include the collaborators in the personnel section. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:47, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying and I would not advocate for its use in every instance. But I really feel it benefits the article in this instance because of the multiple things being listed. I also feel like readers would expect to see "featured artists" or Parton's collaborators written next to the tracks they're on in the "Track listing" section because it is standard on many articles. I think it would be something causing recurring conflict or heated disagreement if we were to separate them into a different section. 120.17.117.109 (talk) 14:52, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I'd be fine if someone added the template, but I don't feel like doing it myself. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:14, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Update: User:Benjichilders has added the template. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:31, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I think it looks much better this way and am glad someone went ahead and implemented it as I am a mobile user so would have been hard for me to do. 120.17.117.109 (talk) 14:52, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Album number in lead

A dispute has arisen over what the lead sentence on the article should say. User:Koavf wants to use "fifty-third studio album", because he found a source calling Rockstar Parton's "fifty-third album." The source is not correct. The total of Parton's solo studio album's prior to this release was forty-eight (see Run, Rose, Run). If you count all of Parton's studio albums (including those with Porter Wagoner, Rockstar is her sixty-sixth studio album over all, but if you only count the solo albums (where Parton is the only main album artist credits on the front cover), Rockstar is her forty-ninth. The number fifty-three in the source is including all of Parton's solo albums, plus the collaborative studio albums Trio, Trio II, Honky Tonk Angels, and Once Upon a Christmas. Up until this point, there has never been an issue with the lead sentence of Parton's album pages following the "XXXX solo studio album" format. Just because ONE source is found that contradicts what was previously written here, does not mean the source is correct. Please chime in on the matter about how you think the sentence should be worded.

- Benjichilders (talk) 13:18, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Prior to Rockstar's release, Parton's studio album numbers are:

• 48 solo
• 13 collaborative w/ Porter Wagoner
• 2 collaborative w/ Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt
• 1 w/ Kenny Rogers
• 1 w/ Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette

for a total of 65 studio albums. So Rockstar should either be listed as her forty-eight solo studio album (following the format of her previous wiki pages) or it could be called sixty-sixth overall studio album, but it makes no sense to call it her fifty-third and only include some albums in that number. (And this is not original research, all of this info was taken form Parton's wiki discography page) Benjichilders (talk) 13:46, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Have you read WP:OR and WP:V? Our goal is verifiability, not truth, so it makes sense to include claims from reliable sources and it does not make sense to remove sourced claims and replace them with original research that is unsourced. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Here are two sources from the Evening Standard and iHeartRadio referring to Rockstar as Parton's forty-ninth solo studio album. (https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/dolly-parton-rock-album-tracklist-b1079972.html and https://www.iheart.com/content/2023-01-18-dolly-parton-confirms-numerous-collaborations-from-upcoming-rock-star-lp/). Additionally, here's a few sources referring to her previous album, Run, Rose, Run, as her forty-eighth (https://www.newsweek.com/dolly-parton-run-rose-run-release-date-tracklist-novel-1683962 https://consequence.net/2022/01/dolly-parton-run-rose-run-album-announcement/ and https://www.nme.com/reviews/dolly-parton-run-rose-run-album-review-lashings-of-charm-3172245). – Benjichilders (talk) 15:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

That doesn't answer my question, but thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:41, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Who plays drums...

...on that album? Does somebody know? 178.0.244.14 (talk) 19:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

I Dreamed About Elvis

I just heard on HR1 (a long interview with Dolly stretched out over two hours of a radio program) that this recording is 21 years old but was never released until now. Jules TH 16 (talk) 10:17, 18 November 2023 (UTC)